You are going to find out real fast that while the AV portion will work
quite well, the content filtering isn't worth the CD that it was
produced on.  Sure, there are lots of options.  Sure, you can quarantine
stuff.  What happens if it quarantines a false-positive?  Oh, sorry.  It
completely mangles it so you can't get it back into the original format.
Sure, the content dictionary works, but the fact is that quarantining
potential spam completely breaks the message, whether it is spam or not,
irritates the heck out of me.  We had to completely turn off the content
filtering portion and set up a separate server as a gateway to do spam
scanning.  Now, luckily when you buy the Enterprise edition, it includes
both Corp. edition and the Mail/Gateway scanning pieces, but you get the
picture.  I'm not too happy with Symantec right now. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner & White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Thursday, October 02, 2003 4:24 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: New AV Gateway Recommendations
Subject: RE: New AV Gateway Recommendations


Okay, the word "agent" was probably unjust as its not called that.  We
brought corporate edition Norton and in the pack we got a CD called
"Virus Protection for Mail Servers" it included :-

Symantec AntiVirus/Filtering for Microsoft(r) Exchange 2000 

------------------------------------------------------------------------
---- Version: 3.05.10.105 
 
Copyright (c) 2001 Symantec Corporation. All rights reserved.





We think the software is great, there are loads of options, a content
dictionary search, loads of spam options.  Weve not really taken
advantage of them, just the Virus scanning.


But sorry yeah, its not called an agent, it's the antivirus/filtering
for exchange 2000.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 01 October 2003 18:57
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New AV Gateway Recommendations

There is no additional "agent" for Exchange.  If you buy Corp. Ed., it
does not include the AV/Filtering for Exchange.  

And, IMHO, it sucks rocks.  I like Corp. ed., but the Exchange server
piece bites, and I have told them that plenty of times.  The A/V
scanning is fine, but the content filtering leaves a LOT to be desired.
It is also not a gateway piece (though they have one available which was
mentioned earlier). 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner & White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-----Original Message-----
From: DL.Exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 12:30 PM Posted To: Exchange
(Swynk)
Conversation: New AV Gateway Recommendations
Subject: RE: New AV Gateway Recommendations


Are you referring to an additional agent for Norton (Symantec) corporate
antivirus, or the Norton (Symantec) antivirus filter?

The avf we have is only able to filter by sender/subject line or set
'content types', in other words, quite limited...

If you are talking about an additional agent, do you happen to have a
link lying around for product information? TIA

Thank you,
Mitchell D. Lawrence
**<Good|Cheap|Fast> (Pick Two)**

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neil Doody
Posted At: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 12:22 PM Posted To: ~Exchange
Discussion~
Conversation: New AV Gateway Recommendations
Subject: RE: New AV Gateway Recommendations

I must recommend the Exchange agent by Symantec, you buy Norton
Corporate and get the Exchange agent separate, install this, you get a
nice web GUI, and viruses should never land in your users mailboxes ever
again.

Very customizable, you can have it mail all people involved, it can set
size limits, it can be told not to allow unscanable (encrypted) items,
but that is a pain in the arse if its genuine!

Its good.

-----Original Message-----
From: Candee Vaglica [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 01 October 2003 17:34
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New AV Gateway Recommendations

Symantec's gateway will do *most* of that.


-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 11:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: New AV Gateway Recommendations


 I'm looking for a new AV gateway product. I'm looking for something
that
has the following features. Right now we use NAI Websheild SMTP gateway
which does a pretty good job but is getting rather dated and it does not
appear that this program will updated past its 4.5 version. The program
has
some nice features, but anything NAI blows, the support gets worse by
the
day, so I want to move on. The current setup I have is a single server
that
receives to WebSheild for AV scanning and keyword content filtering.
Then it
passes it on via port 26 to my MailFrontier for antispam scanning (both
run
on the same box) which then finally passes it on to the Exchange server
boxen on port 25 just like usual.
 
Here are the features I am looking for

*       Keyword Blocking 
*       The ability to turn anti spam off and just use keyword blocking.

*       AV scanner 
*       Ability to pass the mail on another port (such as when an AV
gateway
and an  Antispam gateway are on the same box) 
*       Recipient Exclusion 
*       Sender exclusion (allow mail to pass directly from specified
email
addresses       without scanning for content or virus's) 
*       Originator Blocking (just dump any email that comes from
specified
persons) 
*       A bonus would be that if it could do a lookup against my GAL and
just dump any   email for an address that does not exist 
*       Must run on Wintel platform 
*       Customizeable NDR's for content filtering, etc

 
 
Martin Blackstone
Director, Information Technologies
Microsoft Exchange MVP
Superior Access Insurance Services
949.470.2111 x279
 

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