Hey, if I had my way I'd drop it at the Relay too, but my Director wants
it dropped at the Exchange side.


> She[1] told me she has it working now. She had missed some of the bad
> addresses and that was why they were still bouncing. But you are right, I'd
> rather be doing it at the relay than on the Exchange box, if I had a relay.
> Which I don't. Yet.
> 
> Ronni
> 
> [1] making a hopefully not unwarranted assumption.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Candee Vaglica [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 11:22 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Does anyone know how to get rid of unwanted emails?
> > 
> > 
> > It sounds like you want to drop them at the relay server; not 
> > the exchange
> > server.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Smith, Ronni [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 2:05 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Does anyone know how to get rid of unwanted emails?
> > 
> > 
> > Hmm, sounds like you have configured it correctly. You have 
> > removed the
> > mailboxes right? Not just restricted their send/receive or 
> > something? I'm
> > not sure what would happen in that case.
> > 
> > I only have the one server (and it is an Exchange 5.5 
> > machine), so I don't
> > know if it is related to the existence of the relay server or 
> > not. But yes,
> > you can track what comes into your Exchange server. If you 
> > have the smtp
> > protocol logging set to medium I believe it should show you 
> > if the relay
> > server is trying to pass those addresses on. And you might be 
> > able to see
> > what you need with a lower logging level than that. I just 
> > have mine set
> > there and I can see mail coming in for addresses on my black 
> > hole list. You
> > should be able to see if it is bouncing the addresses or 
> > accepting them.
> > You'll have to find a way to manage a fair amount of log data 
> > if you get a
> > lot of email coming in but it shouldn't take too long to do, 
> > just send your
> > own test message and then look for it. Or just look for one of the bad
> > addresses.
> > 
> > Ronni
> > 
> > *********************************
> > "Once you embrace the fact that most folks in the world don't 
> > get it, you
> > waste a lot less time trying to teach pigs to dance."  
> > -Cthulhu Jones, June
> > 2000
> > ---------------------------------
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Hilda De Nigris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 6:48 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Does anyone know how to get rid of unwanted emails?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi Ronni,
> > > 
> > > I'm having difficulty understanding what you mean by 
> > "alternate".  I 
> > > created a DL called "DEPARTURES", then under the EMAIL 
> > ADDRESSES tab 
> > > of the DL I added all the SMTP addresses of the employees that
> > > have left the
> > > firm.  Under the GENERAL tab, there is no one listed because 
> > > there is no
> > > physical mailbox.  But, when I look at my relay server, I still see
> > > messages held in the queue of the addresses I listed in this 
> > > DL list. The
> > > Relay should be sending these emails to the Exchange Server 
> > since the
> > > addresses are valid even though they don't belong to anyone.
> > > 
> > > Is there any way I can monitor on the Exchange Server as to
> > > which emails
> > > got sent to the Black-hole?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > I think you misread/misunderstood. You want to list all the
> > > e-mail addresses
> > > > that you want to go poof as alternate internet addresses
> > > _for_ the DL. The
> > > > dl has no addresses in it. So when it is expanded it
> > > expands to nothing.
> > > > Hence the black hole.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Ronni
> > > > 
> > > > *********************************
> > > > In theory, there is no difference between theory and
> > > practice. But, in
> > > > practice, there is.
> > > > ---------------------------------
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Hilda De Nigris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 11:52 AM
> > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > Subject: Does anyone know how to get rid of unwanted emails?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > We have a relay system that holds so much unwanted emails
> > > > > from users who
> > > > > have changed their SMTP addresses as well as those that 
> > > have left the
> > > > > firm.  I read a TID that says if you create a DL
> > > > > (distribution list) on
> > > > > the Exchange (5.5) Server and list all the SMTP addresses 
> > > > > inside the DL,
> > > > > that the Exchange server will just drop all these unwanted 
> > > > > emails into a
> > > > > black hole.  Well, I tried this and obviously it does not 
> > > > > seem to work.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Any ideas?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
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