Read the Ed Crowley method and the DR whitepaper and you will change your line of reasoning.
> -----Original Message----- > From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 9:41 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > The recovery drill should be for my boss, because I've been > whining about > this for weeks now. Actually, I am doing a full store back AND brick > backup. The problem has been trying to restore a single > brick. I realize > that this is duplicate information, but I wanted the > granularity to restore > individual mailboxes as needed. > > Eric Fretz > > L-3 Communications > ComCept Division > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > Rockwall, TX 75032 > tel: 972.772.7501 > fax: 972.772.7510 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 8:14 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > That is what a recovery server is for. Maybe a refresher on disaster > recovery is in order. > > > From: Eric Fretz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:08:52 -0600 > > I agree. Although, what happens when an idiot user trashes > their inbox and > then convienently forgets to tell me until after the 1 week retention > period? Restoring the entire store would be a bad idea(tm) > because it was > set everybody back to the state the were in when the backup > was made, right? > > I agree Brick backups are bad idea, I just don't have any > better one's at > the moment. > > Eric Fretz > > L-3 Communications > ComCept Division > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > Rockwall, TX 75032 > tel: 972.772.7501 > fax: 972.772.7510 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 8:06 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > Ok, but what is BLB going to do for you? If you backup the > whole store at > once the normal way, you are going to be back up and running > a heck of a lot > faster than if you had to restore mailboxes one by one. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 6:01 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > Murphy's law says that any working device can crap out and > any moment. This > box is running on a gateway 1U server with no RAID drives. > All it takes is > one hardware failure on a drive to take out the Private store and I am > screwed. This company doesn't even have any tape drives that > are large > enough to hold a backup of the mailboxes. I've had to use > Backup-to-disk > folders on other servers to get space to hold the backups. > Yes, I know I > need tape drives. Yes, I know that I need backup exec 9 (and > the exchange > agent). Those are all planned purchased in Q1 of '04. > > > > Eric Fretz > > L-3 Communications > ComCept Division > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > Rockwall, TX 75032 > tel: 972.772.7501 > fax: 972.772.7510 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 7:41 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > It could tank at any moment then this means you should use brick level > backups. Where did you hear that or am i missing something > > > From: Eric Fretz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:35:21 -0600 > > I've inherited this IT environment and I can't spend any > money until Jan. > 5th. Oh, by the way, this exchange box as not been backed up > since it was > built 2.5 years ago! Brick backups are start because this > box could tank at > any moment. I'm purchasing Veritas BE 9 in January, but I > cannot get it > until then. > > I might have a trial copy of BE 9 and I can use until then, though. > > > Eric Fretz > > L-3 Communications > ComCept Division > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > Rockwall, TX 75032 > tel: 972.772.7501 > fax: 972.772.7510 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:14 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > You're not going to like this answer, but brick backup is a > great big kludgy > crutch for administrators who insist on managing their > Exchange environment > like they would a Microsoft Mail environment. Quit depending on it. > > http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxb.htm > > Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP > Freelance E-Mail Philosopher > Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:16 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > For those of you with Veritas (Or Seagate) Backup Exec, I > have a problem > with restoring individual user mailboxes. Everytime I try to > restore an > individuals mailbox, the job copies 9088 bytes and then > hangs. It never > fails or gives an error message. > > My mail server is Exchange 5.5 standard running on a Windows > 2000 Server > (SP4) with Veritas Backup Exec v8.5. > > Thanks, > Eric Fretz > > L-3 Communications > ComCept Division > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > Rockwall, TX 75032 > tel: 972.772.7501 > fax: 972.772.7510 > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&t ext_mode=&lang > =english > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&t ext_mode=&lang > =english > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&t ext_mode=&lang > =english > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _________________________________________________________________ > Set yourself up for fun at home! 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