I never received mine either. 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hutchins, Mike
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 12:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

By the way, I am still waiting for my book... 

-----Original Message-----
From: David Grimstone (DSLWN) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 1:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

That would be Hemmoroid. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 12 December 2003 3:55 a.m.
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

Ok "Mr. I help build this community",

Here's my opinion...

You're like a hemorrhoid and no amount of Preparation H is making you go
away...  :( 

-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 9:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

I do not believe that I have ever "bashed" anyone. I have expressed my
opinion. Honorary titles and gifts are a conflict of interest and hence not
something that professional IT people should engage in, period. You can
justify it all you want to yourself but it does not change the fact that it
is a conflict of interest. And I do not see why my opinion is hurtful or
demeaning. If you do not agree with my opinion, then why would you be hurt
and demeaned by some nut in Ohio?

I find it interesting that now there are "small gifts" involved. When this
topic came up previously all of the MVP's stated that they were not
compensated in any way.

Finally, it is in Microsoft's best interests to listen to their customers.
They should be doing this even without having MVP's and I, for one, would
rather NOT have my wants and needs filtered through anyone, including an
MVP.

> I think what is at issue here is that in the past you have spent time 
> in this group bashing on the major posters, a number of which are MS 
> MVP's. You insult us by calling us unethical as we have accepted small

> gifts from MS as part of our MVP status. And though you may not 
> believe it, most of us are not here for those gifts. The time spend 
> working in the public groups costs us far more than a trinket from MS.
> For some reason known only to you, our helping others and receiving 
> recognition for MS makes us less ethical than others. Please, you 
> don't have to explain yourself again. We have heard it a dozen times 
> at least. Then you come in and ask for help from essentially those 
> same
people.
> 
> I would hope you could understand that after a large amount of bashing

> by a person, those same folks may be much less inclined to help or 
> offer a kind word to you. While what you say is what you believe, you 
> can also understand that others may find your opinion hurtful or 
> demeaning. But next time you notice that cool new function in Exchange

> that people have been asking for, you may want to stop and wonder if 
> that function is there because some MVP's listened to your wants and 
> needs and made a suggestion to MS to add that to this new version.
> 
> Just my two cents.
> 

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