Don't hide behind that recollection crap.  You are a liar.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

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Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 7:46 AM
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Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

Well, our recollections are different. My recollection is that the MVP's
swore up and down that they did not get compensated. I may have missed
something in the deluge of postings and it was quite a while ago so I may
not have a perfect recollection of this.

To term this "lying" is simply intellectual dishonest.

> Read my earlier post.  Especially the part about being "circumspect". 
> 
> As to your claim about what MVPs said about "small gifts", you are 
> simply a liar; there's no better term for it.  I have the archives, 
> and I remember very clearly what I typed and others posted, but I 
> choose not to go research this matter only to prove that a blowhard is 
> wrong.  You have no credibility to begin with, so why should I bother?
> 
> Didn't you once use the term "MVP Select" or some such in your signature?
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 6:58 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
> 
> I do not believe that I have ever "bashed" anyone. I have expressed my 
> opinion. Honorary titles and gifts are a conflict of interest and 
> hence not something that professional IT people should engage in, 
> period. You can justify it all you want to yourself but it does not 
> change the fact that it is a conflict of interest. And I do not see 
> why my opinion is hurtful or demeaning. If you do not agree with my 
> opinion, then why would you be hurt and demeaned by some nut in Ohio?
> 
> I find it interesting that now there are "small gifts" involved. When 
> this topic came up previously all of the MVP's stated that they were 
> not compensated in any way.
> 
> Finally, it is in Microsoft's best interests to listen to their customers.
> They should be doing this even without having MVP's and I, for one, 
> would rather NOT have my wants and needs filtered through anyone, 
> including an MVP.

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