RE: Reclaiming Disk Space

[Ellery July]

BE = Veritas backup Exchange. he should dump ArcServe (see I said it for you) Exchange Agent is faster/clearer  backup and restore then NT backup. -----Original Message----- From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Michele, (sorry can't find the keystroke to do the accent ;-p) I was under the impression the Agents for Exchange (i.e. Brick Level Backups - sorry to swear William.. ) were BAD?? I've never used BE (more's the pity) but I have had the same experiences as William - Arrrggghhhhhserve and agents ..... all of which are not even good enough to be classified as terrible....... that would be insulting to bad software ;-)   I know OFE and Exchange is a no - no ..... but NTBackup works just dandy for us and our 60Gb+ on 2 servers Exchange 5.5 setup here....   I was warning him based on the fact that he stated clearly that he currently uses A*&@%rve...... I can't bring myself to use it's name in public any more.... and does an offline backup...... so their agent would be the "logical" choice for him and that would be BAD BAD BAD (back me up here William - PLEASE??)   Sorry if I cause offence.... but it's something I can get a little passionate about... Jack   -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 September 2001 15:09 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Jack?  Are you equating "BE w/ Exchange Agent" (which is good) with "Open File Agent" (which is BAD)?   -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk --------------------------------------------------------- "Rikki-Kon-Tiki-Tavi"- Thor Heyerdahl recounts his attempt to prove Rudyard Kipling's theory that the mongoose first came to India on a raft from Polynesia. (David Laughton, Washington, DC) --------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:57 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Save even more money and grief - leave the agent out of it and use NTBackup - no need or offline backups and less grief long term..... see the archives for extensive discussion on the PRO (note the lack of "s") and <20 PITCH BOLD UNDERLINE RED FONT> CONS   </20 PITCH BOLD UNDERLINE RED FONT> of using agents....   Spend the money on good hardware - make your life easy....   Jack -----Original Message----- From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 September 2001 14:42 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space THIS MESSAGE ORIGINATED ON THE INTERNET - Please read the detailed disclaimer below. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- If the IS is 6.2 GB you need to add HD space. A couple 9 or 18 gig drives BE withe xchange agent and you would not need to do an offline backup and lots of other potential problems would go away. What you are proposing is only a temp solution.  Spend a few hundred and save yourself  or the next admin some future grief. ellery july Technical Lead Northwest Area Foundation 332 Minnesota e-1201 St. Paul, MN 55101 email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone - 651-225-3895 fax   - 651-225-7695   -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 8:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space The IS is 6.2Gb.   Exchange services are stopped every night and a full offline backup is taken with Arcserve.   Circular logging is on.   Thanks -----Original Message----- From: Ambrose, Joseph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 September 2001 13:45 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Just a few questions….   How big is the IS?   Are you doing full backups?   Is circular logging on or off?   I’m sure there are others…     Joseph Ambrose System and Network Manager The Conference Board Phone : 001-212-339-0443 Fax : 001-212-836-3802 Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit our Award Winning Web Site:  www.conference-board.org   -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 6:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Reclaiming Disk Space   Hi,   I have Exchange 5.5 installed on a Dell poweredge 2300,  The server has 2 x 9Gb drives mirrored with two partitions 2Gb and 6.45Gb.  Exchange is installed to the first partition and the mailboxes reside on the second partition.   Ok, the server is continually running out of disk space, so everything shuts down, if I look at the mailbox resources in the Admin tool it reports that the internet mail service mailbox is just short of 1Gb, how do you view, clear this down?    Also I believe that the whitespace can be cleared down from the database but requires 110% of the database size, can I install Exchange to another server with bags of disk space, recover whitespace and move databases back to the original server? 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