Very well said. Mark
-----Original Message----- From: Woodrick, Ed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 11:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ? Just remind me to never order services from your company. I'd much rather go with a company who know's when to spend $250 as opposed to sitting on the crapper for hours writing on toilet paper. ANYBODY who knows what they are doing, knows when to call for assistance. ANYBODY who doesn't think that Microsoft PSS is worth a few hundred dollars isn't worth their time. It's completely idiotic to think that you know more than the thousands of PSS reps who have access to case histories that aren't available outside of the company and that you have access to more knowledgeable people than those who wrote the code. Last and not least, any company that boasts that they have 50+ MCSEs on their payroll is not high on my list. Good consultants get their MCSE as an aside with no training. And then again a company who only has one MCSE on their IT staff..... And then again a company who doesn't think that having a premier support level is worth $120,000.... And most stupid of all, a company who doesn't think that outside resources are needed when they are a consulting firm??? That's a pretty stupid concept. If your clients believed in the same thing that you seem to, then you wouldn't have any clients. As far as Exchange is concerned, there is NO ONE that understands EVERYTHING that there is to know about Exchange. I can prove that very quickly and very easily. And there is NO WAY that a large majority of Exchange can be figured out sitting in the bathroom writing on toilet paper. Ed -----Original Message----- From: Greg Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Saturday, September 29, 2001 7:48 PM Posted To: Exchange Sunbelt Conversation: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ? Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ? First of all, why did you change the header. Secondly, we have been able to fix all the problems we've had. In a pervious thread, I said how MS wanted $120,000 a year for the PSS program. Do you have any idea how hard that is to sell to management with the talent we have. We're not a stupid company, I just want to fix everything within the IS group so WE (read that my group) don't look stupid. BWT, I'm the only MCSE in IS and Exchange isn't one of my certifications. Greg -----Original Message----- From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 7:36 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ? That sure puts a whole lot of faith in a certification, and none in Microsoft's internal Knowledge Base... Drew ******************************** If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten that we belong to each other. (Mother Theresa) ******************************** KWAR2001 website: www.schoolofdefence.org/kwar.html Pics of Max are BACK! http://www.drewncapris.net ******************************** "I think that technologies are morally neutral until we apply them. It's only when we use them for good or for evil that they become good or evil." William Gibson -----Original Message----- From: Greg Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 6:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ? You don't think I don't know that! I used to work for the Henry J. Krapper Company, and when we needed outside help, they gave us a pencil and told us to go into the bathroom and 'work it out.' All kidding aside, the attitude at work is that we have about 50+ MCSE's working for us in various areas of the company. If on of my staff or I can't fix it, someone in our company should be able to. Greg -----Original Message----- From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 12:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ? Wow...someone has issues..... Knowing where and when to get expert advice is just another tool (and a very important one) in any knowledgable admin's toolbox. J -----Original Message----- From: Greg Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 11:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ? In a high tech company, calling tech support is considered a sign of not knowing your job. Greg -----Original Message----- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 9:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ? Most of us use them on a per call basis. -----Original Message----- From: Greg Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 6:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ? A very pricey acronym. They wanted $120K a year from us to start. That's a lot for a 200 person company. Greg -----Original Message----- From: David James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 3:09 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ? MS's Support Services. Premier support service. Just another acronym. -----Original Message----- From: Victor Sanchez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 2:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ? PSS? Never heard of them.. <still a newbie to the admin world> -----Original Message----- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 11:17 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ? I would highly advise you to call PSS. If anyone can fix this, they can. If your execs email is as important as they think it is, they will be willing to fork over the $245 Seriously, Call them -----Original Message----- From: Victor Sanchez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 11:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ? the backups had an unfortunete accident. Long story.. I just heard about Exmerge and am reading about it right now... Will it make a difference that the old server is pointing the home mailserver to the new one? -----Original Message----- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 11:03 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ? Restore from an old backup to a restore server, Exmerge the data out to a PST? -----Original Message----- From: Victor Sanchez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 11:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ? Heh sorry.. I've posted this a few times and never got a response.. Here goes again. :) "I was setting up a new Exchange server to replace our old one.... During this adventure we tried to move the mailboxes over with changing the home server in each users advanced properties. It kept giving me a MAPI error.. This was late night and we just deicided we would make everyones new email boxes on the server by hand. I've been logging on to the old server as each user to copy their emails from the old server to a personal folder and then back to the new email server.. Unfortunetly on the old server some peoples properities in their Advanced tab has their home server set to the new one. I tried to set it back but keep getting a MAPI error. I just want to log into the old server and recover a handfull of peoples contacts/emails/calanders ect. Old server - NT 4.0 sp6 exchange 5.5 sp3 new server - nt 4.0 sp6 exchange 5.5 sp 4" It's frustrating.. The old server has their home server set to the new one, but it never moved over the actualy email/calanders. I'm hoping they are not lost forever.. Some people would not like that. Thanx for all the help. -----Original Message----- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 10:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email? Slow down.... Start at the beginning. What is happening and what caused this? -----Original Message----- From: Victor Sanchez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 10:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email? Is this possible? I'm desperate.. The higher ups want their email and our old server has them pointing to the new server and I can't get into the old server under some profiles.... 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