I've seen cheaper...

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-----Original Message-----
From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 12:48 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Learning material


Like I could afford to spend 15k on a boot camp for 12 days in Palm Beach

-----Original Message-----
From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 13:24
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Learning material


I want. However, in this day of dot-com crashes and online auctions, I think
people are resorting to building their own pc's for the experience rather
than to save money. That's the only reason I want to try it.

Regards,

Sean Martin, MCSE
Network Administrator
Ribelin Lowell & Company
Insurance Brokers, Inc.
3111 C Street, Suite 300
Anchorage, Alaska 99503
Ph: (907) 561-1250
Fax: (907) 561-4315
Cell: (907) 229-0885
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 8:40 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Learning material


Do people actually still build their own PC's?

ellery

-----Original Message-----
From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 11:16 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Learning material


And since all you need is a PC, why don't you start out by building you're
own pc. It's a great place to start on your path to knowledge.

Regards,

Sean Martin, MCSE
Network Administrator
Ribelin Lowell & Company
Insurance Brokers, Inc.
3111 C Street, Suite 300
Anchorage, Alaska 99503
Ph: (907) 561-1250
Fax: (907) 561-4315
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-----Original Message-----
From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 3:49 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Learning material


It's the way to learn - why spend thousands on a course, when you can setup
2 pc's, basic networking, learn a new O/S and a New Exchange Product!

Worked for me. Enjoy it!

Simon Weaver
NT Domain Administrator
Ext. 5544
Tel: 02392-705544 (Direct Dial)
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jolley Lee @Consult [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 25 October 2001 11:56:AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Learning material

I've got some an old hub I can use. The only cost I will have is a PC to be
my server. It's a good excuse for me to learn W2K server aswell. I'm looking
forward to setting this up now.

-----Original Message-----
From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 25 October 2001 11:36
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Learning material


There you go :)
10MB is fine for what you need - do a swap!

Simon Weaver
NT Domain Administrator
Ext. 5544
Tel: 02392-705544 (Direct Dial)
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ropiak Steve - NAO Florence Office Exchange and Bar Code Admn.
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 25 October 2001 11:35:AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Learning material

Yeah, I've got a whole bunch of 4 and 5 port 10 MB hubs kicking around after
we upgraded everything to 100 MB switches.  We could work out a trade.

mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Best Regards,
Steve Ropiak
ZF Group NAO
CERT, Exchange and Bar Code Administrator


-----Original Message-----
From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 6:31 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Learning material


Lee
Actually, its really easy - you could use a cross-over cable and connect to
the 2 PC's, or simply get a small 4-port hub, network cables and just attach
2 Pc's and install NT / Win2k Server. For test reasons, it's the way to
start, especially if you cannot justify the cost of a server (Not everyone
can!)

If you need any help, please let me know

Simon Weaver
NT Domain Administrator
Ext. 5544
Tel: 02392-705544 (Direct Dial)
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jolley Lee @Consult [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 25 October 2001 11:23:AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Learning material

Thanks to you both,

I will keep listening to this list and hopefully manage to make myself a
small network to learn from. I've never thought of making a network before
but I really like the sound of it.

Thanks again.

Lee

-----Original Message-----
From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 25 October 2001 11:20
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Learning material


Lee / Tim,

What I have done is setup a test lab, using several servers, and 2 PC's and
install / configure the products I wish to learn.

I also do this with help from books for the product, TechNet, online help
and Microsoft White papers! I am learning new things about exchange all the
time (especially 2k), and this list is on most occasions helpful and provide
good insight.

But there is nothing better than getting hands on experience yourself. Even
if you cannot afford some servers, just network 2 PC's and play around!

Regards

Simon Weaver
NT Domain Administrator
Ext. 5544
Tel: 02392-705544 (Direct Dial)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-----Original Message-----
From: Boswell Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 25 October 2001 11:10:AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Learning material

monitoring this list is pretty good learning material...but it's all pretty
useless and boring unless you can set yourself a network up with an exchange
server. When I was learning (well, when I started...If you've finished
learning, why are you here?) I set one up at home...all the users were
either me, my girlfriend, or my cat, so if I crashed it in the name of
education it wasn't a big deal.

Can't really help much more than that! I never used books....I let
experience teach me!

HTH

-----Original Message-----
From: Jolley Lee @Consult [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 25 October 2001 10:58
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Learning material


I am new to this list and don't get to work with Exchange except for the
clients. Does anybody know of a good source to learn about Exchange server
and admin on the web.

Thanks

Lee


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