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Yup!  Its only when you need to reclaim the white space that ESEUTIL becomes involved.
 
In Steve's case, when you move the users to this database, the data will first occupy the available white space.  Only once this space has been consumed will the database file begin to grow again.
 
-Scott
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 10:48 AM
Subject: RE: Eseutil

it will re-use the whitespace.
 
isn't that what it's there for?
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ropiak Steve - NAO Florence Office Exchange and Bar Code Admn. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 1:37 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Eseutil

So, let me pose a hypothetical.  I have a 6 GB priv.  I move all the users off that server, the priv stays at 6 GB but is basically just white space.  If I then move a bunch of users back onto the server will the whitespace get recycled first or will the priv grow from the newly moved mailboxes?
 

mit freundlichen Grüßen,(Best Regards),
Steve Ropiak
ZF Group NAO
CERT, Exchange and Bar Code Administrator

-----Original Message-----
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 1:26 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Eseutil

Sure.  Some people reboot their servers weekly, too.
 
For the average deployment, offline defragging using eseutil as a regular maintenance tool remains a complete waste of time and resources.(Read: reclamation of whitespace that will be reused anyway)
 
William
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Schnoll [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 8:57 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Eseutil

Well, to be more specific....
 
Exchange's online defragmentation is great for defragmenting and reclaiming white space; however, this process does not reduce the size of the database file.  So, if you move a large amount of data from your databases (e.g., you purge a whole lot of messages; you move a whole lot of mailboxes; etc.) then performing an offline defragmentation using ESEUTIL is completely acceptable maintenance that does not need the hand-holding or blessing of PSS to perform.
 
If you aren't move large amounts of data out of your databases, and you aren't running into any storage limitations (e.g., because you are running Standard or because you're running out of disk space), then running ESEUTIL won't provide much, if any, benefits.
 
So, whether or not this is a regular maintenance tool really depends on your environment.  For the large majority of Exchange orgs, it probably won't be a regular maintenance tool.
 
My $.02.
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Regards,
 
Scott Schnoll
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 8:21 AM
Subject: RE: Eseutil

Only use it if you are directed to by PSS, or if you are using the standard edition of Exchange 5.5 and are running into the 16GB limit.  Exchange handles online defrag quite well so there should be no need to run and offline defrag unless you are running into the 16GB limit on Standard Edition.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dimitri Limanovski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 11:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Eseutil

So what is the best practice with defragmentation?
MS says that "ESEUITL is not considered a tool for regular maintenance and should only be used in case of emergency after contacting Microsoft Technical Support". On the other hand, there're people here that use it on monthly basis!
So, to use or not to use?
 
 
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