Um... why not stick with Exchange 5.5? It's a perfectly usable system, and continues to be supported.
-- Drew ******************************** Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! "And in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years." Abraham Lincoln -----Original Message----- From: Jen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 1:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange You guys have been pretty entertaining today. Actually I have been considering the conversion from Exchange to Domino for a while but this has been quite informative. This really must be a hot topic right now; I just received a tech target newlsetter comparing the two a few minutes ago. As a fledling admin I haven't been very excited with the concept of converting the entire campus to AD to get the (what seems to me) limited benefits of EX 2K. Unfortunately I haven't found many other viable options either. Since this is an Exchange-stroking sort of group, I wouldn't expect that you would have any advice? I guess if I have you guys around I can use your help on the conversion. ;-) (Emoticons & Groupshield, I know how to make everyone happy) Jen Auiler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cross, Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 1:12 PM Subject: RE: OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange > Mood Stamps! Oh me oh my, Mood Stamps! > > -Richard Simmons > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 2:07 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange > > > Excellent <IBM> and <is> thorough <the> reply, <best!> Patrick! > > >>Now, when I am forced to use the Outlook client, I am feel like something > is missing. > > Please elaborate. Given that Outlook is the most widely used email client > in the world, what do you feel is missing? > > William > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pat Smallwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 11:08 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange > > > <ignore senders email address/client> > I am a Notes user, and initially couldn't stand the Client. You are > correct, not initially intuitive etc...(trust me, I was pretty excited > when I first heard that you can use the Outlook client with the a Notes > Server). However, once you become familiar with the functionality and > interface, it is actually pretty nice. No, it does not have the trademark > MS'ified GUI (go figure!!) For me, I think the hard part of accepting > Notes was that I KNEW Outlook, and didn't want to take time to learn the > new client. Dont get me wrong, I do not dislike Outlook/Exchange (that's > how I make a living). > > I am on Notes R5. I dont know what version you were primarily hammering, > but I actually like it. Now, when I am forced to use the Outlook client, I > am feel like something is missing. My mail server has only been down once > in two years (that I am aware of) and I have never had to call a help desk > on it. (yes, of Course Exchange can also run as long if properly > admin'd-maybe even if not!!). I am an Exchange Admin, and only USE Notes, > so I am not aware of the technical issues personally. > > As far as Database functionality, I love that part of Notes now. I guess > you could get the same features elsewhere, although I am not sure they > would integrate as smoothly. An observation I have made over that past > couple years- it seems that a majority of people who demand more than > simple messaging are Notes users. I probably (off record) wouldn't > recommend Notes to your basic email user (simple text messages) who > already has issues understanding Outlook. The learning curve may not be > worth it for some end users. That said, I dont know if I could do as much > with out Notes. > > Just my .02 worth...no need for anyone to flame. Nothing above is intended > to be blanket statements, just some general thoughts on the subject. > </blah blah> > Pat > > P.S Perhaps you could post your Alternative Notes FAQ with Williams > Alternative Operating System/Email etc plan when he finishes it ; ) > > > > > "Lefkovics, William" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 01/09/2002 09:54 AM > Please respond to "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" > > To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc: > Subject: RE: OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange > > > > Well. I haven't heard you rant like that since someone mentioned > Groupshield. > > William > > -----Original Message----- > From: Martin Reilly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 6:26 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange > > > > I can honestly say that Notes/Domino is without too much doubt the most > awful software I have ever had to work with. (I say without *too* much > doubt because some days I think GroupShield may hold that honour... it > depends which I've had to work with most recently). I worked with Notes > and Domino every day - both as an administrator and an end-user - for > nearly a year. I found new reasons to hate it every single day. > > Where should I start? > > The client is unintuitive, slow, and unreliable. Pretty much every > single user interface design error known to software designers is > demonstrated somewhere in Notes at least once. > > The administrative tools make the client look quite well organised and > well behaved. > > The server side components leak memory like it was going out of fashion > and appear to merely tolerate running on the same box as Windows rather > than integrating with the OS in any sensible way. > > The security model is over-engineered, over-complex, under-functional, > and doesn't integrate with anything useful (users hate having to sign in > twice, once for Windows, once for Notes, and who can blame them?). > Likewise the directory. > > I could go on for pages and pages on the cons... one day I'll write up > the "Alternative Notes FAQ" that I keep threatening to put on the web. > > The pros? > > Well... not too many virus writers have noticed Notes, so you can have > an easier time there than with Outlook. > > Alledgedly, Notes is good for workflow and small databases, but I've yet > to see anything done with it that couldn't have been achieved much > faster, cheaper and more reliably with MS Office integrated with > Exchange. > > It's a niche market. Before it sinks without a trace (which I'll give > three, maybe four years) there is probably going to be good money for > people with skills looking after it or - better still - the right skills > for migrating people off of it onto Exchange. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: 08 January 2002 13:17 > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > Subject: OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange > > > > > > I am very familar with Exchange, but my company currently > > uses Domino/Notes > > for the client we are doing work for. What (IYHO) are the > > pros and cons of > > Domino/Notes ? > > > > TIA- > > Dave > > > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
