Nah. He's just making sound like he's more in the know than he really is. And the decision to move to an SQL back end was made way before Larry's little announcement.
-----Original Message----- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 6:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange I don't think I met Roger Jennings in Redmond. Was he there? The decision to move to SQL really has nothing to do with Oracle. Odd. William -----Original Message----- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 2:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange http://www.fawcette.com/dotnetmag/2002_01/online/online_eprods/sql_rjennings 01_04/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Ward - HQ [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 3:21 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange > > See >>> below > -----Original Message----- > From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 12:01 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange > > > >>Try waiting until the next version of Exchange.. It will be fully > integrated with SQL2Kxx as Exchange and WIN2Kxx will rely on it for > ALL the DB level work. > > Really? What have you heard? > > >>>Can't disclose my source.. but this is definately in work.. in fact > >>>it > has a code name already. > > >>I hope they provide a clean upgrade path from 5.5 SPx, there are a > >>lot > of us out there. > > So you'll stay on 5.5 for another 1-2 years... maybe more? > >>> Sure why not. If it ain't broke... hehehe.. > Seriously.. IMHO XCHG 5.5 is considerably more reliable than XCHG2K. > Granted 5.5 doesn't have some of the "NEW" "COOL" features, but from > all that I've seen and experienced in testing XCHG2K my confidence > wasn't improved at all to do a major conversion across 34 Sites in 27 > States. XCHG2K also hasn't been too popular in the "new" email market > (kinda like XP for OS's). I think the concept and design was excellent > but it fell short on the functionality level to me. Not to mention > administration is a LOT different and to retrain all 8 of our > Admins(who are already Exchange > weak) would have been more to deal with as well. Of course that's my > problem. > > -Rick > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 11:56 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange > > > > Try waiting until the next version of Exchange.. It will be fully > integrated with SQL2Kxx as Exchange and WIN2Kxx will rely on it for > ALL the DB level work. Imagine using a DB engine that works > consistently for it to manage all records without the "constant" DB > glitches inherent to JET. > > Personally/Professionally I don't like XCHG2K enough to move towards > it.. My only concern is that I "might" have to upgrade to XCHG2K > before I can go to this new version. I hope they provide a clean > upgrade path from 5.5 SPx, there are a lot of us out there. > > -Rick > -----Original Message----- > From: Jen [ <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 11:22 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: Re: OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange > > > You guys have been pretty entertaining today. Actually I have been > considering the conversion from Exchange to Domino for a while but > this has been quite informative. This really must be a hot topic right > now; I just received a tech target newlsetter comparing the two a few > minutes ago. As a fledling admin I haven't been very excited with the > concept of converting the entire campus to AD to get the (what seems > to me) limited benefits of EX 2K. Unfortunately I haven't found many > other viable options either. Since this is an Exchange-stroking sort > of group, I wouldn't expect that you would have any advice? I guess if > I have you guys around I can use your help on the conversion. ;-) > (Emoticons & Groupshield, I know how to make everyone happy) Jen > Auiler > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cross, Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 1:12 PM > Subject: RE: OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange > > > > Mood Stamps! Oh me oh my, Mood Stamps! > > > > -Richard Simmons > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Lefkovics, William [ <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 2:07 PM > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange > > > > > > Excellent <IBM> and <is> thorough <the> reply, <best!> Patrick! > > > > >>Now, when I am forced to use the Outlook client, I am feel like > something > > is missing. > > > > Please elaborate. Given that Outlook is the most widely used email > > client in the world, what do you feel is missing? > > > > William > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Pat Smallwood [ <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 11:08 AM > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange > > > > > > <ignore senders email address/client> > > I am a Notes user, and initially couldn't stand the Client. You are > > correct, not initially intuitive etc...(trust me, I was pretty excited > > when I first heard that you can use the Outlook client with the a > > Notes Server). However, once you become familiar with the > > functionality and interface, it is actually pretty nice. No, it does > > not have the trademark MS'ified GUI (go figure!!) For me, I think the > > hard part of accepting Notes was that I KNEW Outlook, and didn't want > > to take time to learn the new client. Dont get me wrong, I do not > > dislike Outlook/Exchange (that's how I make a living). > > > > I am on Notes R5. I dont know what version you were primarily > > hammering, but I actually like it. Now, when I am forced to use the > > Outlook client, I am feel like something is missing. My mail server > > has only been down once in two years (that I am aware of) and I have > > never had to call a help desk on it. (yes, of Course Exchange can also > > run as long if properly admin'd-maybe even if not!!). I am an Exchange > > Admin, and only USE Notes, so I am not aware of the technical issues > > personally. > > > > As far as Database functionality, I love that part of Notes now. I > > guess you could get the same features elsewhere, although I am not > > sure they would integrate as smoothly. An observation I have made over > > that past couple years- it seems that a majority of people who demand > > more than simple messaging are Notes users. I probably (off record) > > wouldn't recommend Notes to your basic email user (simple text > > messages) who already has issues understanding Outlook. The learning > > curve may not be worth it for some end users. That said, I dont know > > if I could do as much with out Notes. > > List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
