Here here. In addition after a system makes a change it takes ORBS up to 72 hours to release it. That is unacceptable.
BTW, only Exchange Admins can claim to be GOD. ellery july phone - 651-225-3895 -----Original Message----- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 1:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: ORBZ shutting down. Now, should anyone take umbrage at my apparent glee over the legal troubles of a fellow computer professional, let me try to explain. 1. I do not like spam, either the real kind from a can, or the type received in an inbox. 2. I applaud any attempt to try and make it as difficult as possible for a bulk mailer to steal services on other peoples mail machines to send their unwanted junk mail. 3. HOWEVER, I do not, and never have, appreciated the "I AM GOD and if you don't like it go FSCK yourself" attitude of the ORBZ operator. No notification to the admin of the "offending" mail server, just BOOP, you're on the list and you pay hell trying to get off the silly thing. 4. RTBL's sometimes are a good service, this one was just poorly executed. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 If I could wish for my life to be perfect, it would be tempting but I would have to decline, for life would no longer teach me anything. --Allyson Jones -----Original Message----- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 1:34 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: ORBZ shutting down. ::HIGH FIVE:: -----Original Message----- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 10:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: ORBZ shutting down. HURAH! HURRAH! HURRAH! John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 If I could wish for my life to be perfect, it would be tempting but I would have to decline, for life would no longer teach me anything. --Allyson Jones -----Original Message----- From: Ed Santiago [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 1:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: ORBZ shutting down. For those that have been doing relay testing with ORBZ. Here is some sad news. From: ORBZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 03:20:25 +0000 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ORBZ-Secondary] Shutdown >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Mar 20 12:01:39 2002 User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Here's the email that those of you with forward sight have been fearing since the inception of ORBZ. As of this moment, ORBZ is shutting down. DNS zones are going to stop resolving, the website will disappear and mail will stop working (so furthur discussion on this list probably won't work -- use NANAE). I dont want to disappear in silence like ORBS, so I'll try for as much description as possible without compromising my own position. I received an official court notice this afternoon to turn over all information relation to ORBZ accounts. This came from the 10th Judicial District court of the State of Michigan. It appears that ORBZ may be facing criminal charges for denial of service relating to the Lotus Domino issue. I was happy to try to weather any civil issues that may have come up, and I was committed to seeing it through. However, the threat of jail time is too much; I don't believe in this fight quite that much. Thank you all for all your support. I sincerely hope that someone with the goal of carrying on the mission of ORBZ pops up in another country with a less foreboding legal system. Anyone who has copies of the current zones may do with them what they wish. For those of you stuck without good spam filtering, please consider ORDB and SpamCop; they both provide excellent free solutions. Ian Gulliver ORBZ List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm