Here here.

In addition after a system makes a change it takes ORBS up to 72 hours to
release it. That is unacceptable. 

BTW, only Exchange Admins can claim to be GOD.

ellery july
phone - 651-225-3895 
 


-----Original Message-----
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 1:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ORBZ shutting down.


Now, should anyone take umbrage at my apparent glee over the legal troubles
of a fellow computer professional, let me try to explain.

        1. I do not like spam, either the real kind from a can, or the type
received in an inbox.

        2. I applaud any attempt to try and make it as difficult as possible
for a bulk mailer to steal services on other peoples mail machines to send
their unwanted junk mail.

        3. HOWEVER, I do not, and never have, appreciated the "I AM GOD and
if you don't like it go FSCK yourself" attitude of the ORBZ operator. No
notification to the admin of the "offending" mail server, just BOOP, you're
on the list and you pay hell trying to get off the silly thing.

        4. RTBL's sometimes are a good service, this one was just poorly
executed.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981
If I could wish for my life to be perfect, it would be tempting but I would
have to decline, for life would no longer teach me anything. --Allyson Jones



-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 1:34 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ORBZ shutting down.


::HIGH FIVE::

-----Original Message-----
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 10:33 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ORBZ shutting down.


HURAH!  HURRAH!   HURRAH!

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981
If I could wish for my life to be perfect, it would be tempting but I would
have to decline, for life would no longer teach me anything. --Allyson Jones



-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Santiago [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 1:31 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ORBZ shutting down.


For those that have been doing relay testing with ORBZ. Here is some sad
news.


From: ORBZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 03:20:25 +0000
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ORBZ-Secondary] Shutdown
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Wed Mar 20 12:01:39
2002
User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i
 
Here's the email that those of you with forward sight
have been fearing since the inception of ORBZ.
 
As of this moment, ORBZ is shutting down.  DNS zones
are going to stop resolving, the website will disappear
and mail will stop working (so furthur discussion on
this list probably won't work -- use NANAE).
 
I dont want to disappear in silence like ORBS, so I'll
try for as much description as possible without
compromising my own position.
 
I received an official court notice this afternoon to
turn over all information relation to ORBZ accounts.
This came from the 10th Judicial District court of the
State of Michigan.  It appears that ORBZ may be facing
criminal charges for denial of service relating to the
Lotus Domino issue.
 
I was happy to try to weather any civil issues that may
have come up, and I was committed to seeing it through. However, the threat
of jail time is too much; I don't believe in this fight quite that much.
 
Thank you all for all your support.  I sincerely hope
that someone with the goal of carrying on the mission
of ORBZ pops up in another country with a less
foreboding legal system.  Anyone who has copies of the
current zones may do with them what they wish.
 
For those of you stuck without good spam filtering,
please consider ORDB and SpamCop; they both provide
excellent free solutions.

Ian Gulliver
ORBZ

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