Well, in my case, I can indeed come in on a weekend, shut email access off
for a couple of hours (or 6, even), and do an offline defrag. No one would
know the difference. 

My problem with adding another disk is that, as I said, my tape drive is
about as full as full can be. I need to cut down on the size of the IS...
Eseutil looks like the way to go... I'll just shutdown Exchange and make
full offline backups of the data to my file server (100GB free), and see how
it goes.

Thanks,

Evan


 -----Original Message-----
From:   Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Friday, March 29, 2002 4:25 PM
To:     MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:        RE: Recovering lost space

So the cost of the downtime caused by running eseutil doesn't equate to
throwing another couple disks in the server?  With disks being as cheap as
they are, size should not be an excuse for running eseutil to defrag your
database.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems


-----Original Message-----
From: Dawn R. Ashford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 4:14 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Recovering lost space

Like I said Kevin, you have tons of storage space. With limited storage
space some of us actually have to run eseutil just to keep enough space free
to stay up and running.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 3:14 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Recovering lost space


Eseutil is bad.. Reclaiming white space is not really of any value as
you will generally just reuse it. Kind of like cleaning your car in
Seattle during the rainy season. It might look clean for 8 hours but
then it is dirty again. Same thing with the Priv. Hence the reason I
will just leave the 70 gigs[1] of white space in my priv.

[1] 91 gigs removed, SIS took about 20 gigs out of that.


--Kevinm CHFR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 12:42 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Recovering lost space


Oops... my apologies... Yes... Exchange 5.5 on W2K.

I'll take a look at Eseutil... I think I'd heard in the past that it
wasn't the safest thing in the world to use? Or am I thinking of
something else???

Thanks,

Evan


 -----Original Message-----
From:   Dawn R. Ashford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Friday, March 29, 2002 3:38 PM
To:     MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:        RE: Recovering lost space

Is that Exchange 5.5? Eseutil is what you're looking for. Q182903 will
give you command line parameters.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 2:35 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Recovering lost space


I think this may be a commonly asked question, which is bad because I
should be able to find the answer better than I have, but good because
it may be easy to answer :-)

I've finally got a lot of mail archived to PST's. Probably about $GB in
various files. Now, as I think is usually the case, the priv.edb file
size has not shrunk (still 8GB). What the safest way to shrink this?
While I still have 5GB free on the array, I use NT Backup to backup
Exchange to my file server each night. That file then gets picked up on
tape, which is only 40GB, and I've been at that limit forever, removing
new things from the backup each night to keep it under the limit. I need
to cut this size down if possible....

Thanks,

Evan

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