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pine and netscape.
-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 2:01 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Oh man you are kidding...

I would still like to know what client they prefer instead

-----Original Message-----
From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 4:00 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Oh man you are kidding...

I agree with you in all points. I just don't see a reason why tossing
Outlook now that it, as you mentioned, has been greatly improved to stop
such automated script execution attacks.

Interesting enough KLEZ uses a completely new algorithm to spread
itself. It harvests e-mail addresses out of the browser local temporary
Internet file cache and sends e-mails with faked originator addresses
using it's own SMTP engine. How would it help to toss Outlook to get
around KLEZ?

I am just awaiting the first .EXE viruses designed to infect a *NIX
machine by using the same algorithm KLEZ uses (harvesting e-mail
addresses from temporary files) and send them via it's own SMTP engine.

Anybody knows how to program that?

<Siegfried />

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steven Peck DNET [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 10:51 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Oh man you are kidding...
>
> And once again the convenience vs. security debate is launched.
>
> The downside of Outlook was it's ability to execute some script
attacks
> from
> the preview pane.  This is solved somewhat in later versions and
patches.
> And is defeated through a percentage of end-users inability to control
> their
> double-click.  ANY OS that has file execution associations can be hit
by a
> virus.  Both KDE and GNOME are building this functionality into their
> interface and as such will also be subject to this kind of attack.
>
> It is more effectively solved by preventing the executable type files
from
> passing through your server in the first place.  If someone wants to
email
> an executable, they can zip it.  At least then it is a two stage
process
> for
> infection and the local desktop anti-virus sw has a shot at the new
virus
> that your Exchange servers anti-virus missed.  Even if an end user is
> infected (floppy, etc) they mail bomb's their own email box as the
server
> refuses to send those attachment types internally as well.  I have yet
to
> see a legitimate reason to email an scr file in a corporate
environment.
> :)
>
> If it is vbs or js, then the developer can rename it as txt and assume
> that
> the recipient can rename it to vbs or js.
>
> As to alternative's to Outlook in asked about in another message.
> You can use Eudora, Netscape Mail, Pine, etc (POP3 or IMAP)...... You
just
> LOSE the Email/Calendaring integration function which is the primary
> appeal
> of the Exchange server in a business environment.
>
> Of course, I am aware of a company that has an Exchange server and
uses
> Outlook Express!?
>
> -sp
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:33 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Oh man you are kidding...
>
>
> > It is what happens when people insist on using Outlook as their MUA.
>
> BS! You can get any type of virus if you open a mail and execute an
> attached
> file.
>
> <Siegfried />
>
> List Charter and FAQ at:
> http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm


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