I'm not a cheapskate...I have no problem spending company money....;) -----Original Message----- From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 9:08 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
Well, as I mentioned. A cheapskate solution could be a custom developed ActiveX control to accomplish the same. BTDT and it's not that hard especially MSDN and the MSKB has all info you need. <Cheers:Siegfried runat="server" /> > -----Original Message----- > From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 2:44 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA > > Thanks for everbody's input, it is greatly appreciated. We had been > looking at the messageware guys product but have been putting it off > trying to find an alternative solution. > > Cheers > > -----Original Message----- > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 6:53 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA > > > Interesting. Just tested it on Windows.NET Server build 3604 and you're > right! IE6 on Win.NET doesn't seem to cache the session if using > basic/clear text authentication. > > As for your kiosk question: some do a reboot after you logoff, some not. > I've seen one where after I quit the whole machine got imaged back at > the restarted. But you can't count on this. > > The solution is, as I mentioned, either buy that product from the > MessageWare guys or roll your own component. I wrote an ActiveX control > based solution which destroys the browser session. I am aware that some > kiosks even disallow ActiveX but in this case IE5/6 and OWA 2000 will > also not work ;-) > > Contact me offlist if you want to test it with a test account. > > <Cheers:Siegfried runat="server" /> > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:45 AM > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA > > > > So basically, don't use a kiosk for OWA. > > > > Sorry... I didn't mean to confuse with the word post. I meant post as > > in 'after' applying sp2. > > > > I also assume people close all browser windows through the logoff > > process as requested on the screen. > > > > By the way, with IE6 on Windows.Net I still get "ERROR: Access Denied" > > (unless I reauthenticate) in other browser windows after closing OWA > > leaving multiple IE browsers open. On Windows2000 Pro, I am able to > > regain access to OWA without re-authenticating using an url in > History. > > > > Do kiosks not have a reset or anything? > > > > William > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:35 PM > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA > > > > > > The Logoff *button* which has been added to OWA 2000 in SP2 (and no > > postSP2 fix)? > > > > It does *exactly* the same as on OWA 5.5. It displays a logoff window > > telling you to close *all* IE windows. If you have more than one IE > > window open IEPLORE.EXE will not unload from memory and you can get > back > > into the same mailbox without getting an authentication dialog. > > > > Almost all Internet kiosks or cafe's have, if they run IE, it > configured > > that you cannot close the browser. In this case *anybody* can open > your > > mailbox *without* getting asked again for user & password if s/he > knows > > the url to your mailbox. > > > > <Cheers:Siegfried runat="server" /> > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:30 AM > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA > > > > > > I attribute that to poor English. <g> > > > > > > Using the alleged Logoff button (mostly aesthetics as I understand > it) > > > > > added in E2K sp2, iexplorer.exe holding the OWA session terminates > in > > > Windows2000 and .Net. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:23 PM > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA > > > > > > > > > Can you explain what is "post-sp2 E2K logoff"? > > > > > > <Cheers:Siegfried runat="server" /> > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:19 AM > > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA > > > > > > > > Please help here, Siegfried. > > > > > > > > If I use the post-sp2 E2K logoff in OWA2000, it terminates > > > iexplore.exe > > > > (IE5 and IE6 on Windows2000 and Windows.net). > > > > > > > > William > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 2:54 PM > > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA > > > > > > > > > > > > Pardon when I jump n here, William. But no, in OWA 2000 there is > no > > > real > > > > logoff and there has never been one in any version of OWA. Neither > > 5.5 > > > > > > > nor 2000 had and has a feature to close the authenticated channel > IE > > > has > > > > opened after you logged into OWA. This is an IE issue and the only > > > work > > > > around without buying third party software, develop your own > > software, > > > > > > > or use another browser is to close all browser windows and make > sure > > > > > > IEXPLORE.EXE doesn't stay in memory. > > > > > > > > Currently there is only one third party product which overcomes > this > > > > > > limitation from Messageware (the guys doing the PlusPack for OWA > > 2000) > > > > > > > called SecureLogoff. > > > > > > > > <Cheers:Siegfried runat="server" /> > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 10:49 PM > > > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > > > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA > > > > > > > > > > The logoff process should take care of that. It even closes the > > > > > browser. > > > > > > > > > > William > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 1:13 PM > > > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > > > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't think the session time-outs are gonna do it. My main > > concern > > > > > > > > would be access from kiosks which sometimes won't let you close > > the > > > > > browser. We may be stuck going third party for a solution again. > > > Seems > > > > > > > > > like another downgrade from 5.5...;) > > > > > > > > > > Pasted from Q294752 > > > > > > > > > > NOTE : The above setting has to do with the connection between > the > > > > > > > client and the server and it does not affect authentication in > any > > > > way. > > > > > When you set the user context timeout to a number, even if this > > > > timeout > > > > > passes, the client browser will still have the user's > credentials > > > > cached > > > > > and the user will not be prompted for credentials > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:03 PM > > > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > > > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > XCCC: Session Timeout Settings for Outlook Web Access on > Exchange > > > 2000 > > > > > > > > > Server > > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q294752 > > > > > > > > > > William > > > > > > > > > > Other reg settings for OWA: > > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q311342 > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 12:51 PM > > > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > > > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That may be the diff. > > > > > > > > > > William? > > > > > > > > > > Steve Clark > > > > > Clark Systems Support, LLC > > > > > AVIEN Charter Member > > > > > "Who's watching your network?" > > > > > www.clarksupport.com > > > > > 301-610-9584 voice > > > > > 240-465-0323 Efax > > > > > > > > > > The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by > > > Clark > > > > > > > > > Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged > > > > information > > > > > and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others > > without > > > > the > > > > > prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:39 PM > > > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > > > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA > > > > > > > > > > Ah, sorry, Iam running Exchange 2000 Ent. on Windows 2000 Adv. > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:34 PM > > > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > > > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I find that if I wait 10 to 15 minutes, I go back in and try to > > open > > > a > > > > > > > > > message and get the expired window and a prompt to log back in. > > > > > > > > > > I'm running Ex 5.5 on NT 4 - is that what you're running? > > > > > > > > > > Steve Clark > > > > > Clark Systems Support, LLC > > > > > AVIEN Charter Member > > > > > "Who's watching your network?" > > > > > www.clarksupport.com > > > > > 301-610-9584 voice > > > > > 240-465-0323 Efax > > > > > > > > > > The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by > > > Clark > > > > > > > > > Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged > > > > information > > > > > and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others > > without > > > > the > > > > > prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:19 PM > > > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > > > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA > > > > > > > > > > I wasn't aware that it logged you out if the browser remains > open. > > > > I've > > > > > kept the browser open on my test network and been able to go > back > > > days > > > > > > > > > later and move around the mailbox. > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:01 PM > > > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > > > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It already logs you off after an extended period. Are you > looking > > to > > > > > > > > modify that timeout period or asking what is the period? > > > > > > > > > > Steve Clark > > > > > Clark Systems Support, LLC > > > > > AVIEN Charter Member > > > > > "Who's watching your network?" > > > > > www.clarksupport.com > > > > > 301-610-9584 voice > > > > > 240-465-0323 Efax > > > > > > > > > > The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by > > > Clark > > > > > > > > > Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged > > > > information > > > > > and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others > > without > > > > the > > > > > prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 2:54 PM > > > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > > > > Subject: Force Logoff of OWA > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > > > Is there a way to force users to have to log back on to the owa > > > server > > > > > > > > > after a certain time period expires? 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