The names ring a bell once you name them, but I'd be hardpressed to name
them on my own. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 8:10 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


How about Ronaldo...or Beckham (the guy who married one of the Spice
girls) or Maradonna? I'm a hockey fan through and through and I've heard
of those guys...and then there is that goalie from the US who wears his
hair in dreads....dunno his name though.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 5:10 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


I don't know any soccer stars other than Pele. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 8:41 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


I couldn't really tell you the name of any American
baseball/'football'/basketball star other than the obvious one like
Michael Jordan or that fat fscker The Washing Machine (or Fridge, or
Dishwasher, or whatever his name was).

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 13 June 2002 16:28
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Force Logoff of OWA
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Are you serious Ray?  Football (soccer) stars make gazillions in
Europe!!! And they are bigger stars worldwide than the North American
baseball/football/basketball stars.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 9:27 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
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Soccer may be the most played youth sport in the US.  I know one of the
local "travelling teams" (13-yr olds) went to Holland to play some youth
teams there. Not sure of the results. 

Anyway, you're starting to see the results, and hopefully it'll
continue. Unfortunately, our very best athletes still turn to the "money
sports" - football, basketball, maybe baseball. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 2:40 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Disagree, I've seen the NHL - those guys know the difference between an
elbow and a foot!

BTW I was told the North Americans believe "soccer" is a game for women
and kids. The Argentinians would agree!

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 13 June 2002 09:53
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Siegfried was being considerate of us North Americans who don't know our
feet from our elbows.


-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:49 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA



Soccer?? You mean football, the game played with the foot?  :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 13 June 2002 00:18
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Force Logoff of OWA
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Soccer? I don't like it as much as I don't like German beer. Can you say
I am not a typical German? Everybody who knows me closer is telling me
that over and over again...

<Cheers:Siegfried runat="server" />

> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:14 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> WWII all over again...
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:12 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
> <confused> Germany advancing? Go Poland? What did I miss </confused>
> 
> <Cheers:Siegfried runat="server" />
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:08 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> > It's the same with .Net build 3590.
> >
> > Thank you, sir.  And congrats to Germany for advancing.
> >
> > Go Poland!
> >
> > William
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:53 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> >
> > Interesting. Just tested it on Windows.NET Server build 3604 and
> you're
> > right! IE6 on Win.NET doesn't seem to cache the session if using
> > basic/clear text authentication.
> >
> > As for your kiosk question: some do a reboot after you logoff, some
> not.
> > I've seen one where after I quit the whole machine got imaged back
at
> > the restarted. But you can't count on this.
> >
> > The solution is, as I mentioned, either buy that product from the
> > MessageWare guys or roll your own component. I wrote an ActiveX
> control
> > based solution which destroys the browser session. I am aware that
> some
> > kiosks even disallow ActiveX but in this case IE5/6 and OWA 2000
will
> > also not work ;-)
> >
> > Contact me offlist if you want to test it with a test account.
> >
> > <Cheers:Siegfried runat="server" />
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:45 AM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > > So basically, don't use a kiosk for OWA.
> > >
> > > Sorry... I didn't mean to confuse with the word post.  I meant
post
> as
> >
> > > in 'after' applying sp2.
> > >
> > > I also assume people close all browser windows through the logoff
> > > process as requested on the screen.
> > >
> > > By the way, with IE6 on Windows.Net I still get "ERROR: Access
> Denied"
> >
> > > (unless I reauthenticate) in other browser windows after closing
OWA
> 
> > > leaving multiple IE browsers open.  On Windows2000 Pro, I am able
to
> 
> > > regain access to OWA without re-authenticating using an url in
> > History.
> > >
> > > Do kiosks not have a reset or anything?
> > >
> > > William
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:35 PM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > >
> > > The Logoff *button* which has been added to OWA 2000 in SP2 (and
no
> > > postSP2 fix)?
> > >
> > > It does *exactly* the same as on OWA 5.5. It displays a logoff
> window
> > > telling you to close *all* IE windows. If you have more than one
IE
> > > window open IEPLORE.EXE will not unload from memory and you can
get
> > back
> > > into the same mailbox without getting an authentication dialog.
> > >
> > > Almost all Internet kiosks or cafe's have, if they run IE, it
> > configured
> > > that you cannot close the browser. In this case *anybody* can open
> > your
> > > mailbox *without* getting asked again for user & password if s/he
> > knows
> > > the url to your mailbox.
> > >
> > > <Cheers:Siegfried runat="server" />
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:30 AM
> > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > > >
> > > > I attribute that to poor English. <g>
> > > >
> > > > Using the alleged Logoff button (mostly aesthetics as I
understand
> > it)
> > >
> > > > added in E2K sp2, iexplorer.exe holding the OWA session
terminates
> > in
> > > > Windows2000 and .Net.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:23 PM
> > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Can you explain what is "post-sp2 E2K logoff"?
> > > >
> > > > <Cheers:Siegfried runat="server" />
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:19 AM
> > > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > > > >
> > > > > Please help here, Siegfried.
> > > > >
> > > > > If I use the post-sp2 E2K logoff in OWA2000, it terminates
> > > > iexplore.exe
> > > > > (IE5 and IE6 on Windows2000 and Windows.net).
> > > > >
> > > > > William
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 2:54 PM
> > > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Pardon when I jump n here, William. But no, in OWA 2000 there
is
> > no
> > > > real
> > > > > logoff and there has never been one in any version of OWA.
> Neither
> > > 5.5
> > > >
> > > > > nor 2000 had and has a feature to close the authenticated
> channel
> > IE
> > > > has
> > > > > opened after you logged into OWA. This is an IE issue and the
> only
> > > > work
> > > > > around without buying third party software, develop your own
> > > software,
> > > >
> > > > > or use another browser is to close all browser windows and
make
> > sure
> > >
> > > > > IEXPLORE.EXE doesn't stay in memory.
> > > > >
> > > > > Currently there is only one third party product which
overcomes
> > this
> > >
> > > > > limitation from Messageware (the guys doing the PlusPack for
OWA
> > > 2000)
> > > >
> > > > > called SecureLogoff.
> > > > >
> > > > > <Cheers:Siegfried runat="server" />
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 10:49 PM
> > > > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > > > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The logoff process should take care of that.  It even closes
> the
> >
> > > > > > browser.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > William
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> 
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