No, I think that's the whole point - it's not standard. You should only
apply hotfixes if you experience a particular problem.

-----Original Message-----
From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 26 July 2002 11:30
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange SP4


Standard disclaimer.  No worse than Microsoft's EULA which
makes no guarantees either, IIRC.

Phil

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Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 26 July 2002 09:36
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange SP4
> 
> 
> Yeah, hotfixes always have the old "MS have only tested this 
> hotfix for the
> problem it cures. Only apply if you are experiencing this 
> specific problem".
> Reading between the lines this means "We haven't done much 
> testing - we've
> checked the procedure/module which is at fault and it appears 
> to fix the
> problem but we have no idea of the sh*t this fix might cause 
> in other parts
> of the code".
> 
> Kevin
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 26 July 2002 08:47
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange SP4
> 
> 
> I've had no problems without them.  Most shops I've been involved with
> use email around the clock.  Installing hotfixes just because 
> they exist
> just interrupts people more important to the company than I - the ones
> that bring in revenue.
> 
> If it is a security fix or an issue I am experiencing, that is
> different.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 8:55 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange SP4
> 
> 
> The trouble with that philosophy is that things get overlooked when
> changes are made.  Configure a new Internet Mail Connector under your
> regime and you're asking for trouble unless you have a photographic
> memory (which I certainly don't).  And, for the record, I've had no
> ptoblems whatsoever with the Post-SP4 fixes.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Phil
> 
> ---------------------------------------------
> Phil Randal
> Network Engineer
> Herefordshire Council
> Hereford, UK 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 25 July 2002 16:53
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Exchange SP4
> > 
> > 
> > Tut tut. I do and when I have a NEED to install a security
> > fix, I test and
> > then install. I don't install security fixes for things that 
> > do not apply to
> > my environment.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 11:46 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Exchange SP4
> > 
> > 
> > Tut tut to you, my good man.
> > 
> > Take a trip to www.microsoft.com/security and read
> > the bulletins carefully next time.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Phil
> > ---------------------------------------------
> > Phil Randal
> > Network Engineer
> > Herefordshire Council
> > Hereford, UK
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: 25 July 2002 16:45
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Exchange SP4
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Tut tut Phil.
> > > 
> > > Don't install the Post-SP4 fixes unless you have a need to or are 
> > > experiencing the issue that is solved by installing the SP.
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 10:27 AM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Exchange SP4
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Tut tut, Martin, you forgot to check that everything had
> > > restarted OK ;-)
> > > 
> > > Don't forget the Post-SP4 fixes, the latest of which was
> > > released yesterday.
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > 
> > > Phil
> 
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