Rethinking this, I do have enough space to do D2D2T. I can not keep back ups on disk, but by doing this (after clean up and archiving like we should), I can go back to full back ups and process the tapes during production. Thanks for all your help. Great ideas out there (except for the Shook knob polishers)
On Jan 11, 2008 12:02 PM, Jeremy Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > We just moved to Data Domain appliances. They are fantastic. We do disk > to disk in our data center and then it replicates automatically to a second > box off-site. Everything is deduped so the traffic to the second site is > very small. Tapes are only used for stuff we have to keep around long term > (~ 7 years). > > > > *From:* Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Friday, January 11, 2008 12:09 PM > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Back Up Best Practices > > > > Those of you moving to a D2D option, are you handling that additional > space yourself, or outsourcing it? I do not have enough space on hand to > handle back up data very far back if I went to disk only. > > My off site link is to a colo and is only 10MB, so it would be difficult > to handle. > > > On Jan 11, 2008 11:00 AM, Tim Vander Kooi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Nah (although you might have been), I dreamed it up about a year and a > half ago when I pulled the last of the tape drives off my network and > suddenly the sun shone brighter and the flowers smelled flowerier. DPM has > made it just that much better. (DPM is far more WAN resilient than > DoubleTake has dreamed of being. > > TVK > > > > *From:* Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Friday, January 11, 2008 10:41 AM > > > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > *Subject:* Re: Back Up Best Practices > > > > Did you dream that up while polishing Shook's knob? :P > > On Jan 11, 2008 8:38 AM, Tim Vander Kooi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Which brings up what I consider the new world Backup Best Practice which > would be NO tapes. I am of the opinion that true "backups" should be > done to disk, "archives" should be done to tape. For years Bus and > archives have really been one and the same due to technology's inability > to truly differentiate them, but that isn't the case anymore. > JMO YMMV, > TVK > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT) > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 11:05 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Back Up Best Practices > > The more tapes you have to use to get your server back into operation, > the greater the risk for something to be FUBAR and your restore being > useless. > > Luke had the best answer, a full then differentials until the next full > backup. That way you only need two tapes to ensure that you have a > complete backup set. > > > John H. Matteson, Jr. > Systems Administrator/ITT Systems > FOB Orgun-E > Afghanistan > DSN - 318 431 8000 > VoSIP - (308) 431 - 0000 > Iridium - 717.633.3823 > > "A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national group > in America has not yet become an American. And the man who goes among > you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the > Stars and Stripes." Woodrow Wilson > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:11 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: Back Up Best Practices > > What is the latest recommendation on back up processes? We have been > small enough to do full back ups daily for some time, but now face time > issues with that and need to move to a tiered option. Is F-I-I-I-I > reasonable anymore or is it too risky? I do not want to be stuck with a > bad full back up in an emergency. > > -- > http://www.otbdesign.com > http://www.linkedin.com/in/mqcarpenter > > > > > ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ > ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ > > ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ > ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > http://www.otbdesign.com > http://www.linkedin.com/in/mqcarpenter > > > > > > -- http://www.otbdesign.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/mqcarpenter ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~