ROFL! Man, its always a treat to find a tangential nugget like this in the middle in an otherwise interesting/informational thread.
On Jan 29, 2008 2:01 PM, Andy Shook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > 2007 = ME2 > > > > > Shook > ________________________________ > > > From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 1:12 PM > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Revisit: to RSG or to not RSG > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Revisit: to RSG or to not RSG > > > > > > > > > Drool, I can't wait to get on 2007. If I want to replicate my one Exchange > server to another location using SCR or CCR, I take it I will need another > Exchange Server License, right? > > > > Whatever it is, it must be cheaper than doubletake or hawansync, right? > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 12:04 PM > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Revisit: to RSG or to not RSG > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Revisit: to RSG or to not RSG > > > > > > > Yep. > > If a server bites it, then, well, that's why we use CCR! > > > > > > > From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 1:01 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Revisit: to RSG or to not RSG > > > > > > Oh, my bad – you DID say A database – sorry. > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Don Andrews > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 10:01 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Revisit: to RSG or to not RSG > > > > Really? – how many clusters/servers/databases/terabytes? > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 8:21 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Revisit: to RSG or to not RSG > > > > > > I find the dial-tone restores more work than they are worth. > > I can restore a database and replay logs in less than an hour. > > > > > > > > > From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 11:12 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: Revisit: to RSG or to not RSG > > > > > > Thinking back to this thread... Are people still using Dial-Tone Restore > Method when recovering Exchange Databases? (Then swap the databases and > merge them). > > > > I never really revisited it since SP2 came out. I know that they improved > the RSG and ExMerge process in SP2 > > > > I still practice to Dial-Tone method in my Disaster Recovery Tests, and > that's what I would utilize in an emergency. > > > > I find it beneficial since my users have cached mode for old data, and they > it get's my users up right away sending and receiving. > > > > > > I'm guess I am just surprised no one mentioned it in this thread. > > > > http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/Exchange-Dial-tone-Restore-Method-Part1.html > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:31 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: to RSG or to not RSG > > > > Option 1 is what I would do. > > > > > Regards, > > > > Michael B. Smith > > MCSE/Exchange MVP > > http://TheEssentialExchange.com > > > > > From: Bill Songstad (WCUL) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 12:26 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: to RSG or to not RSG > > > > > > Yeah me too, what do you think about the method? I was thinking one of the > following: > > > > 1) Restore the database directly to the First Storage Group or > > 2) Restore to a recovery storage group and use exmerge to bring the data up > to date or > > 3) Restore to a recovery storage group, dismount both stores and copy the > recovered files to the live location or > > > > But I don't have enough experience to know the pros and cons of each. > > > > > Bill Songstad > > Director of Technology & Operations | Washington Credit Union League > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 206.340.4837 | 800.552.0680 ext. 117 | > www.waleague.org > > Washington's Credit Unions. together. better. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 9:20 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: to RSG or to not RSG > > > > > > I wouldn't have done it that way, but that should be an ok way. Given what > you've said, I'd take a dump of the "crappy hardware" and restore it on the > "new hardware". > > > > > Regards, > > > > Michael B. Smith > > MCSE/Exchange MVP > > http://TheEssentialExchange.com > > > > > From: Bill Songstad (WCUL) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 12:12 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: to RSG or to not RSG > > > > > > It affects everyone. I need to restore the entire Datastore. I had a > mainboard failure and restored the server to crappy temporary hardware. Now > the new hardware is ready and I want to move the live data to the new > hardware. I didn't do it with swing migrations because it took less time to > reboot into the crappy hardware than it would have to build a machine to > swing to. I prepped the new machine using one half the broken mirror from > the original machine. Now I have two clones of the same machine and one has > to come off line while I bring the other up. AD should be none the wiser. > Then I restore the current database and go on my merry way. > > > > > Bill Songstad > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:57 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: to RSG or to not RSG > > > > > > You have to answer first – what is the goal? Why are you doing the restore? > Does it impact all users or just one (or a few?). > > > > > Regards, > > > > Michael B. Smith > > MCSE/Exchange MVP > > http://TheEssentialExchange.com > > > > > From: Bill Songstad (WCUL) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:38 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: to RSG or to not RSG > > > > > > I find myself needing to restore my entire datastore. The question is, is > it better to: > > > > 1) Restore the database directly to the First Storage Group or > > 2) Restore to a recovery storage group and use exmerge to bring the data up > to date or > > 3) Restore to a recovery storage group, dismount both stores and copy the > recovered files to the live location or > > 4) Use an entirely different plan of which I'm as yet unaware > > > > It is perfectly acceptable to bring the datastore offline. > > > > What are the pros and cons of each strategy? > > > > My biggest concerns are stability and integrity of the final data, and total > time spent by yours truly. > > > > I'm running Exchange 2003 SP2 and NtBackup. > > > > I'm leaning toward number 1, but that's probably because I'm more familiar > with exchange 2000 than X2K3 and that was the only way then. > > > > Thanks for any insights, > > > > Bill Songstad > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~
