Yes. That's why I said "Windows" and not AD.
Regards, Michael B. Smith MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Matt Plahtinsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: MS licensing??? Is that still true if you use local accounts instead of AD? On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Michael B. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The PUR - Product Use Rights - document discusses a very similar situation. As Simon says (HAHAHAHAHAHAHA), the most expensive option is the correct one. Any time you authenticate a user against Windows, you must have a CAL. Doesn't matter if it is POP, HTTP, or filesharing. Or whatever else. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Simon Butler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS licensing??? Remember the licensing rules... 1. Get three opinions, at least one must be from Microsoft. 2. Get it in writing. 3. The most expensive option will be the correct one. What I tell clients is that in most respects, the number of machines = number of CALs. You cannot have Exchange CALs only as the users are accessing the server - which means they need a Windows CAL. Therefore you will need to have both Windows and Exchange CALs for all of those users. Although if you are deploying Exchange 2007 why are you using POP3? Use Outlook Anywhere/RPC over HTTPS! POP3 is an awful protocol. Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Amset IT Solutions Ltd. e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: www.amset.co.uk w: www.amset.info Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile 5.0? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/ for certificates from just $23.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/ _____ From: Matt Plahtinsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 August 2008 15:06 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: MS licensing??? I have called Microsoft twice and both people I have talked to were clueless about the licensing scenario I'm going to ask you guys. One of the licensing guys I talked to said that he could not answer my question and that I should talk to "my lawyer" to get clarification on how to interpret "Their license"...... Redoing my company's network. Moving from sbs 2003 to Server 2008 with exchange 2007. I have about 75 internal users that need the typical access to 2008 AD and Exchange 2007. I have about 50 users that are field users that have laptops. Each laptop user ONLY needs email access and is currently not on the domain. They all belong to a workgroup. These laptops will stay in workgroups. I would like each of these 50 Users to pull POP3 from my exchange server. So what kind of license do i need to buy? CORE CAL and Exchange CAL or can I get away with just an Exchange CAL since their computers will not belong to the domain? My guess is that we will have to buy both but was hopeing that we could only purchase the exchange CAL. Anyone have an awnwer? Is there an easier way to licnese this? Management does not want to pay the 5k for these users just so that they can get pop3 on the new exchange box. Thanks Matt ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~