I use them both too...less admin with the EAS...no adding users, assigning
profiles, etc...

On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 4:26 PM, Sherry Abercrombie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> I have both ActiveSync & BES, personally, I prefer BES, but have no real
> issues w/EAS.
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 4:16 PM, wjh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>  So, do people really like Activesync?  Or is that free beats clunky?
>> Connectivity and management through BB or Good seems so much easier.  We use
>> Good on our WM devices and the interface is so much better.  Tasks and notes
>> work fine, plus no certificate hoops to jump through.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> mqcarp wrote:
>>
>> I think I have it. I do note that the server setting is very misleading. I
>> ended up using the direct server address ie mail.domain.com instead of
>> the direct OMA address like many documents online suggest ie
>> mail.domain.com/oma
>>
>> I never could get it to work manually configuring the device, but did get
>> it to work with the config utility (I use the web version). I think that
>> portion is due to the certificate validation being included in the config.
>>
>> That said so far only portions of the contacts, no calendar, and only
>> folder structure is coming across at this point. At least we are getting
>> somewhere!
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 1:44 PM, mqcarp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>  Thank you for sharing Sherry. I still have a few quirks going on so I
>>> will keep testing. A dumb mistake was not including the domain name ahead of
>>> the user name! I have a feeling this may not suit our CEO either, as I keep
>>> reading about some limitations. Will see.
>>>
>>>   On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Sherry Abercrombie <
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.techsack.com/2008/08/19/getting-your-iphone-to-work-with-exchange-active-sync-ssl-certificate/
>>>>
>>>> On 9/23/08, mqcarp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Interesting, well OMA works fine now both internally and externally,
>>>>> however ActiveSync will not. This is on an iPhone. Still reviewing
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 10:53 AM, mqcarp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I got it worked out but it is excruciatingly slow. Very odd. I will
>>>>>> have to look at this. Thanks all
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 9:05 AM, Michael B. Smith <
>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I did this the first time, long ago and far away. It's just part of
>>>>>>> the process now…here were my comments the first time I had to do it:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2007/11/13/oma-amp-activesync-after-configuring-rpc-https-and-forms-based-authentication.aspx
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* mqcarp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2008 8:48 AM
>>>>>>> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: ActiveSync Set Up Veterans
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you happen to use a front end Exchange server? We do not, and have
>>>>>>> come across a problem. In reading about the solution on MS site, this 
>>>>>>> seems
>>>>>>> odd and insecure. Has anyone had to implement this fix?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/817379/EN-US/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Sherry Abercrombie <
>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have ISA in my environment, but it is not a part of the
>>>>>>> OWA/ActiveSync setup.  I have a reverse proxy setup at my colo that is 
>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>> for both OWA and ActiveSync.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/22/08, *mqcarp* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sherry are you using ISA in your environment?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Michael B. Smith <
>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The below was current as of the release of Exchange Server 2003 sp2.
>>>>>>> Not sure if the attribute has additional documented values in Exchange 
>>>>>>> 2007.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can also make the change globally easily using PowerShell or a
>>>>>>> tool like ADModify.Net.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The final Exchange specific tab is Exchange Features, shown in Figure
>>>>>>> 9-9. The Mobile Services entries allow you to control, on a per-user 
>>>>>>> basis,
>>>>>>> the mobile capabilities of Exchange. If you, by default, enable mobile
>>>>>>> services at the global level (Global Settings(R)Mobile Services(R)
>>>>>>> Properties(R)General) then this window allows you to disable the
>>>>>>> capabilities at the per-user level. Using the script made available in
>>>>>>> Microsoft KB 830188 (How to grant permission to use Outlook Mobile 
>>>>>>> Access to
>>>>>>> specific users of Exchange Server 2003), you can globally disable all 
>>>>>>> users
>>>>>>> and then pick and choose which specific users are to be allowed access 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> mobile service capabilities.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The per-user AD attribute that controls these functions is named
>>>>>>> msExchOmaAdminWirelessEnable. If this attribute has a value of zero or 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> attribute is not present, then all mobile services are enabled. If 
>>>>>>> Outlook
>>>>>>> Mobile Access (OMA) is disabled, but the other two features are enabled,
>>>>>>> then the attribute has a value of two (2). The other two items control
>>>>>>> specific features associated with Exchange ActiveSync (EAS).  "User
>>>>>>> Initiated Synchronization" must be enabled for Up-to-date Notifications 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> be enabled; however Up-to-date Notifications may be disabled on its 
>>>>>>> own. If
>>>>>>> only Up-to-date Notifications is disabled, then 
>>>>>>> msExchOmaAdminWirelessEnable
>>>>>>> has a value of one (1). If both User Initiated Synchronization and
>>>>>>> Up-to-date Notifications are disabled, then 
>>>>>>> msExchOmaAdminWirelessEnable has
>>>>>>> a value of five (5). If all three Mobile Services are disabled, then
>>>>>>> msExchOmaAdminWirelessEnable has a value of seven (7).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you search the Internet, you will find that other values can be
>>>>>>> specified for this attribute. However, the values described in the prior
>>>>>>> paragraph are the only values which Microsoft has documented. You are 
>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>> off only using these values.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2008 12:55 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: ActiveSync Set Up Veterans
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Exchange Features tab in AD for each account is the place to
>>>>>>> enable or disable additional Exchange features such as mobile and OWA.  
>>>>>>> All
>>>>>>> these features are enabled by default and you will have to disable them.
>>>>>>> When we recently went through the process to setup OWA and ActiveSync, 
>>>>>>> I had
>>>>>>> to manually disable everyone except those that had the proper approval 
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> mobile and/or OWA.  Check with your HR department because there are 
>>>>>>> legal
>>>>>>> things to consider with employees checking or receiving email during
>>>>>>> non-business hours.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In your IIS settings for ActiveSync you can set it to require SSL and
>>>>>>> I wouldn't recommend setting it up any other way.  No SSL means that 
>>>>>>> you're
>>>>>>> network credentials are being sent clear text.......very bad idea.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Haven't had need to do any looking at logging for auditing at this
>>>>>>> point so I can't address that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/22/08, *mqcarp* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just have a few questions if some of you are using this feature. It
>>>>>>> seems frighteningly easy to set up on the server side and I want to 
>>>>>>> ensure
>>>>>>> that the settings are secure. Here are a few observations for you vets 
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> this:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * The settings are activated for ALL users when it is enabled. Is it
>>>>>>> possible to disable it by default and enable specific users in AD?
>>>>>>> * Is there a log setting to enable for reviewing audit processes for
>>>>>>> pushes and troubleshooting in Exchange?
>>>>>>> * For iPhones, I have noticed that the config utility can require a
>>>>>>> certificate for the server side push set up, but if you set up a device
>>>>>>> manually, it will accept the connection without this validation. Can 
>>>>>>> this be
>>>>>>> set to be required to avoid connections this way?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is on Exch 2003.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Sherry Abercrombie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from
>>>>>>> magic."
>>>>>>> Arthur C. Clarke
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Sherry Abercrombie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from
>>>>>>> magic."
>>>>>>> Arthur C. Clarke
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Sherry Abercrombie
>>>>
>>>> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
>>>> Arthur C. Clarke
>>>>
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> --
> Sherry Abercrombie
>
> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
> Arthur C. Clarke
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