I think I'll wait.  It's supposed to be out by eom.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 3:13 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 Mailbox cleanup frustrations

You can roll-your-own get-counter very easily without waiting for another
CTP. See my post below.

Wrappage:
<http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2007/11/13/accessing-
performance-counters-in-powershell.aspx>

Regards,

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
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-----Original Message-----
From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 2:48 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 Mailbox cleanup frustrations

I've seen at least one blog post about Powershell CTP3 promising a
get-counter cmdlet that looks like it will provide direct access to the
performance counters.

-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 1:36 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 Mailbox cleanup frustrations

To add to that, the poor man can create his own Exchange monitoring from a
crummy workstation running the exchange management shell and having its own
external smtp destination.

Parsing test-servicehealth and get-queue can give you a pretty good idea of
what is going on with your 2007 environment (you can add any of the test
commands to that to enhance its reporting, ie test-mailflow).

We also check disk space with get-wmiobject -class Win32_LogicalDisk
-Computername Server

When the script is done we either send a notification based on an issue, or
use convertto-html and post it to an internal website.


It's a far cry from SCE, but the price is right.

-Troy


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 11:15 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 Mailbox cleanup frustrations

As far as I know.



Microsoft encourages you to use a fully featured monitoring product, such as
OpsMgr or SCE or even ServersAlive. Something off-box from the Exchange
server that can check more individual items.



Regards,



Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP

My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael

I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php



From: Leedy, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 11:11 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 Mailbox cleanup frustrations



Thanks for the Reply Michael.



One other question.  Is built the in monitoring and alerts (queue size,
drive free space etc...) gone in Exchange 2007?



-Andy



From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 10:42 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 Mailbox cleanup frustrations



Insofar as [1] - not that I'm aware of.



[2] would take a small MAPI-based program. Glen Scales blog may have some
specific samples, or I'm sure you could retain any of several people to
write one. As far as that goes, [1] is a MAPI program too - and could be
written for much less than the cost of Enterprise CALs, but it is a larger
effort than [1].



Regards,



Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP

My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael

I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php



From: Leedy, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 9:54 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 2007 Mailbox cleanup frustrations



In Exchange Server 2003 we scheduled Mailbox Manager to run weekly to move
items older than 60 days to the System Cleanup folders based on recipient
policy. We also deleted items older than 30 days from the System Clean
folders again with the recipient policy. This gave the Outlook users 30 days
to review what was going to deleted rather than just going straight to the
deleted items folder. Also, after it ran weekly, each user was notified that
via email that their mailbox was cleaned and the Admin was emailed a report.
It seems this option has been discontinued in Exchange Server 2007. In
Exchange 2007 the move to Systems Cleanup Folders has been replaced with
Move to Custom Managed Folder. In order to have the same functionality in
Exchange 2007, you have to pay for Enterprise CALs in order to create
Managed Custom Folders. Which doesn't sound bad but at $35 per user times
600 users that's a lot. And, there still is no option send a email to each
user and get a report. So, the best it seems we can do is move items
directly to the deleted items folder an send out a mass email manually
weekly or by script. Plus mailboxes that have been moved to the 2007 server
still have the "System Cleanup" folder in them.



1)      Is there an way to get the System Cleanup Folders in Exchange 2007
that I'm not aware of? Registry entry or some other method? Even 3rd party?

2)      Is there a way to mass delete the System Cleanup Folder from the all
mailboxes on the 2007 server instead of just instructing each user to delete
them manually?



Thanks,

Andy Leedy

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