Thanks! >From the article: "For rarely used operations, such as creating a new sort order or selecting a folder for the first time, response times of up to one minute are acceptable." Ugh...yeah.. right..
________________________________ From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 11:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving Aha! Here it is... http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc535025.aspx ________________________________ From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 10:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving There was an article brought up here not too long ago referencing that it's not the size of the messages, but rather the number of messages that can affect Exchange performance. ... Can't lay my hands on it right at the moment... ________________________________ From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:55 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving Stefan, Do you find with these high limits that users get "outlook is trying to retrieve data from the microsoft exchange server" message? As I've increased our limits, I see this more and more (cached and non cached clients, local, citrix, doesn't matter) ________________________________ From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 10:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving How many users what industry? For many users Outlook is the application they use 90% of the time as long as you have the storage and capacity why severely limit the usage? Outlook is a very nice application to keep track of your daily, past and future activities. My highest user is at about 1 GB average of 190 users is 260Mb but almost all are archived. ___________________________________ Stefan Jafs From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 8:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving Nope, not in my opinion... 60MB warn 70MB no send 80MB no receive except if your an exec, then 200MB limitation The Exchange server is NOT a file server... ________________________________ From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 7:27 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving Mailbox limits are 300MB warning, 320MB no send, 350MB no send/receive. Am I being to strict??? I also have deleted item retention set for 14 days. I figured these are pretty typical limits? ________________________________ From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 10:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving Yes I do __________________________________________________ Stefan Jafs From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] Sent: May-05-09 9:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving I have about 130 users and a 250GB store.... Wow.. you must have some strict limits set. Bob From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 2:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving That's good to hear. I have about 160 users and currently have a 24GB store. What kind of hardware is SEA running on? processor, storage? How long are you archiving for? thx ________________________________ From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 1:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving I have recently installed the SEA solution. I'm impressed, everything works, we had a bit of a challenge with RPC / HTTP, we had to get another certificate etc. but it's all good now and I had any help I needed from Sunbelt. The setup was included in the cost and Sunbelt came in remotely and had it all configured in about 1,5 hours. I have about 190 users so far I have archived 138 users, my store has gone from 105 Gb to less than 50Gb (or should have if I defragged). It setup to auto archive automatically after 30 days. My external Archived data is about 40 Gigs. It's very seamless to the users, now I'm just trying to get the users to move all their archives.pst back to the inbox. Very happy SEA user. ___________________________________ Stefan Jafs From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 11:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving Thanks for the reply. We have just started discussing archiving, and while compliancy is a goal, I suppose it would be nice to reduce the size of the store. I would think that once you have enabled any archiving solution, you will be reducing your store? Won't messages that people are keeping now be archived (moved out of the store) thus reducing the size, and allowing for lower mailbox limits? Thx ________________________________ From: Eric Hanna [mailto:eri...@sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 11:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving In my experience, the load on the Exchange server tends to depend on how many mailboxes are being journaled, the amount of journaling mailboxes, and how much traffic is being ran through the Exchange server. Based on these factors, I would say you will probably see about a 5-15% increase in utilization (rough estimate but is what I generally see). As for how granular journaling is: Exchange 2003 is set on the store level while Exchange 2007 can be set at the mailbox level. Lastly, my 2pennies worth for the archiving: There are lots of solutions out there for archiving from open source to products like Symantec Vault. Enabling journaling for Exchange archiving is a popular way to go as it ensures capture of inbound and outbound traffic instead of interacting with individual mailboxes. While this gets your compliancy side, it doesn't do anything for your store sizes. Products like SEA (yes, a shameless plug) are able to archive your journaling mailbox (and only keep a copy for the archives) and also archive mailboxes individually. This will get your compliancy side as well as getting your information store reduced. While all solutions serve their function, it really depends on what you want to accomplish while archiving. Are you looking for archiving as a compliancy solution and/or do you want to get your information store sizes down? Is it more beneficial for you and your company to use a hosting company or would you like to keep it in-house? Sincerely, Eric Hanna Lead Enterprise Technical Services Specialist Sunbelt Software ________________________________ From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 10:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange archiving I am beginning to look into our options for archiving Exchange 2003. It seems like most solutions involve enabling journaling on the exchange server and having the server grab a copy of every email that is sent and received. Then (with a hosted solution for example), the copies of emails get securely sent over the internet to the hosting company's servers where we can log in and view/retrieve them for an archive period. Depending on the length of archiving and the amount of data, cost seems to be around $300 - $600 month. I assume in-house solutions (where you have the journaling service send copies of everything to your own in-house server) is also an option? 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