Sure underscores the reason to have an external AS gateway.

-----Original Message-----
From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu] 
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:37 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: E-mails to junk folder

So, I did have to restart the server one more time after disabling everything.  
That actually makes sense since the changes are at the Org level.

After that, some of the messages I have that were going to junk are now going 
to the inbox.  I've checked with a few other people and they are getting the 
same results as well with other messages.

I still wish I knew what triggered it.  I've looked back through my notebooks 
and the SCL level was set to 4 way back in July of 2007.  It's almost like it 
has never really worked right and then all of a sudden it started filtering 
after the updates or the reboot from the updates.  Prior to that, the server 
was last rebooted with January updates.

Thanks for all the help!

-Bonnie

-----Original Message-----
From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu] 
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:21 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: E-mails to junk folder

Thanks Michael--We'll see what happens!

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:15 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: E-mails to junk folder

I think you've taken the right action.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu] 
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 5:13 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: E-mails to junk folder

Hmm... the kicker though is that I only just installed the script after 
changing the SCL level didn't seem to help any--it's not something I have 
installed on our BE server in the past.  Now that it's installed, I found the 
buttons to disable most everything and we'll see if it's better over the 
weekend.  Not sure what else to do.

-Bonnie

-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:04 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: E-mails to junk folder

http://www.petri.co.il/install-anti-spam-exchange-2007.htm


Die dulci fruere!

Roger Wright
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On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Miller Bonnie L.
<mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu> wrote:
> Okay, I just found this: 
> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/exchangesvrantivirusa
> ndantispam/thread/5f4a7a57-e49a-463f-819b-13d5c408f075
>
> So, under the hub transport I right-clicked on the Content filtering and 
> changed it to disabled.  Is that it?
>
> -Bonnie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 1:25 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: FW: E-mails to junk folder
>
> Isn't there a way to disable IMF completely in E2007?  A little 
> checkbox perhaps?
>
>
> Die dulci fruere!
>
> Roger Wright
> ___
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Miller Bonnie L.
> <mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu> wrote:
>> Well, I'm really at my wit's end here.  SOMETHING has changed to 
>> cause the junk filtering in our environment to become extremely 
>> aggressive, but since I haven't changed any server configuration 
>> related to this since our E2k7 rollout in July of 2007, I am at a 
>> loss as to explain it.  The only thing I know for sure is that I 
>> installed the latest MS security patches late last week, and starting 
>> on Tuesday people are getting massive amounts of e-mails to their 
>> junk folders.  One person reported messages from Thursday and Friday 
>> sent there, but I did not see it, so I still can't pinpoint the trigger.
>>
>>
>>
>> It was just a few tech folks at first, but now I've found out our 
>> helpdesk has been getting calls on and off all week about people 
>> missing messages.  I already changed the SCLJunkThreshold to 8 and 
>> restarted the server.  I've also run the install-AntispamAgents.ps1 
>> that Michael suggested.  After poking around some more, I found there 
>> is a new tab near my receive connectors under \Server 
>> Configuration\Hub Transport called "Anti-Spam".  In there, I've added 
>> IP addresses of our internal (non-exchange) servers to the IP allow 
>> list, and after that those messages are no longer being filtered as spam.
>>
>> But, we still have tons of messages coming in from the outside that 
>> are getting thrown into junk folders.  These are e-mail addresses 
>> that people have been getting things from for months, if not years, 
>> and it has never filtered to junk before.
>>
>>
>>
>> At this point, I really want to just shut off junk filtering at 
>> Exchange altogether-we have a spam gateway for this and it has worked 
>> well-it's what people are used to, and two layers is a lot for 
>> everyone to understand.  Is there a way to do that?  Still E2k7 SP1 RU9.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Bonnie
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 12:25 PM
>>
>> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: E-mails to junk folder
>>
>>
>>
>> Kewl. did not know about that one or it's been so long I forgot.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.expta.com/2008/08/how-to-configure-scl-in-exchange.html
>>
>>
>>
>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb201691(EXCHG.80).aspx
>>
>>
>>
>> I've adjusted the SCL level and restarted the transport service for 
>> good measure.  Will see if it gets any better-thanks a bunch!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 11:43 AM
>> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: E-mails to junk folder
>>
>>
>>
>> Set the organizationConfig for SCLJunkThreshold to 8. J
>>
>>
>>
>> Those tabs only show up in the EMC if you've run 
>> install-AntispamAgents.ps1 in $exscripts which causes the relevant DLLs to 
>> get registered.
>>
>>
>>
>> Get-TransportAgent shows you what agents are actually installed and 
>> can be configured from the EMS.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael B. Smith
>>
>> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>>
>> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 2:12 PM
>> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: E-mails to junk folder
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks Michael-so, do you know where exactly I might find that in 
>> EMC?  I've looked all over the hub transport options (again, single 
>> server all roles
>> SP1 RU9) and am just not finding it.  No Exchange edge server-we have 
>> a barracuda spam firewall on the outside.
>>
>>
>>
>> For example, I see a screenshot here of the configuration, but I 
>> can't find this screen anywhere.
>>
>> http://exchangepedia.com/blog/2007/02/exchange-2007-content-filter-ho
>> w-to_07.html
>>
>>
>>
>> If I run get-organizationconfig I can see the "SCLJunkThreshold" 
>> value is set to 4.
>>
>>
>>
>> Get-contentfilterconfig shows the DN of the object to be under 
>> Transport Settings, but I only have two tabs in the properties of 
>> Transport settings under \Organization Configuration\Hub Transport.  
>> I'm SUPPOSED to be logged on with an admin with all of the correct 
>> rights, but I'm starting to wonder if there is a permission out of whack 
>> somewhere.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Bonnie
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 10:57 AM
>> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: E-mails to junk folder
>>
>>
>>
>> Isn't this controlled by "antispam agent settings" on the hub 
>> transport/edge?
>>
>>
>>
>> If you are in online mode, Outlook shouldn't process Junk Email 
>> itself - but it still can be processed server-side.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael B. Smith
>>
>> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>>
>> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 1:47 PM
>> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: E-mails to junk folder
>>
>>
>>
>> And if I'm reading correctly, Outlook 2007 should not be using the 
>> junk folders in online mode-is that correct?  We've been non-cached 
>> mode for a long time, and I've verified that has not changed on many 
>> of the accounts where this is happening.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc178957.aspx (Supported 
>> Account types section)
>>
>>
>>
>> Does not supported actually mean it doesn't work, or you shouldn't do it?
>> In other words, something could be turning on our junk filter 
>> settings (like a group policy) and it's suddenly trying to work, but 
>> really just isn't supported?
>>
>>
>>
>> If I look at my junk filter settings (it has happened to my account 
>> as well) it shows "low".  Right before I get to the screen to view 
>> the settings (actions, junk e-mail, junk e-mail options), I get a 
>> warning about the filter not being available because I'm working online.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 10:21 AM
>> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>> Subject: E-mails to junk folder
>>
>>
>>
>> All of a sudden in the last day or two, many of our internally 
>> addressed messages are going to the Outlook 2007 (non-cached mode) 
>> junk folders for different mailboxes.  For example, automated 
>> messages from a...@mukilteo.wednet.edu end up in junk for some users.  
>> So far, all of the messages are ones that come from other servers in 
>> the domain that are not the actual Exchange server, but are added as 
>> servers that are authenticated or allowed to relay (by IP address) on 
>> one of two receive connectors.  Back end is E2k7 SP1 RU9 all roles with 
>> latest security patches from last week.
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't know much about how the junk mechanisms work and am just 
>> starting to dig, but if anyone has seen this or knows right where to 
>> go looking I'd appreciate it.  I've checked our external IP for 
>> blacklisting and am not finding it turn up anywhere that I can see.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bonnie
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