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Replied to wrong email. Nothing to see here. Move along.
Regards,
Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com
From: Michael B. Smith
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 2:07 PM
To: 'MS-Exchange Admin Issues'
Subject: RE: stupid question
I'm having to restore a computer backup from 2001 to get that data!! Damn, =
it's been a long time since I ran that website.
~Me
From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]<mailto:[mailto:ken=
nedy...@elyriaschools.org]>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 2:04 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: stupid question
Ok, THEY put backscatterer.org in their system then. So they either remove =
it, whitelist you or continue to reject your email. Their choice and nothin=
g you can do about it.
From: pramatow...@mediageneral.com<mailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com> [ma=
ilto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com]<mailto:[mailto:PRamatowski@mediageneral.=
com]>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 2:02 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: stupid question
We're the ones that are being listed.
Their admin says their exchange server is blocking us because MS is using =
backscatterer. I found nothing that says MS uses it[1] but figured I'd as=
k before sticking my foot all the way in when I replied:)
I don't know what V they have but I know bs.org wasn't in our environment b=
y default.
From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]<mailto:[mailto:ken=
nedy...@elyriaschools.org]>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 1:17 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: stupid question
I would be shocked if MS has backscatterer.org automatically built into the=
ir spam filter. I would expect someone added it to your system, track it do=
wn and remove it if you want.
From: pramatow...@mediageneral.com<mailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com> [ma=
ilto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com]<mailto:[mailto:PRamatowski@mediageneral.=
com]>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 1:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: stupid question
Especially since backscatter was mentioned here not long ago:(
What their admin said:
Jon found that the IP address her email is coming from (199.193.13.250)
is blacklisted at backscatterer.org. Microsoft has picked up that
blacklist and won't allow it into our system.
Does MS/forefront use backscatterer.org to actually do blacklisting?
I may be wrong but is this not a service they would have to select on their=
servers (same as choosing any other service) ?
http://www.mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=3Dblacklist%3a199.193.13.250
Thanks,'
Paul
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<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Replied to wrong email. Noth=
ing to see here. Move along.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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nt></p>
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<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></=
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nt></p>
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<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Michael B. Smith<o:p></o:p><=
/span></font></p>
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<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Consultant and Exchange MVP<=
o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Calibri">=
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">http://TheEssentialExchange.=
com<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Calibri">=
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Tahoma"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-=
weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Tahoma"><span =
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif&q=
uot;"> Michael
B. Smith <br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, July 21, 201=
1 2:07 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> 'MS-Exchange Admin Issue=
s'<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> RE: stupid question=
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Calibri"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Calibri">=
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">I’m having to restore =
a computer backup from 2001 to get that data!! Damn, it’s been a long=
time since I ran that website.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Calibri">=
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Calibri">=
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">~Me<o:p></o:p></span></font>=
</p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Calibri">=
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Tahoma"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-=
weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Tahoma"><span =
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif&q=
uot;"> Kennedy,
Jim <a href=3D"mailto:[mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]";>[mailto:kenne=
dy...@elyriaschools.org]</a>
<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, July 21, 201=
1 2:04 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> MS-Exchange Admin Issues=
<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> RE: stupid question=
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Calibri"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Calibri">=
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Ok, THEY put backscatterer.o=
rg in their system then. So they either remove it, whitelist you or continu=
e to reject your email. Their choice and nothing
you can do about it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Calibri">=
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Tahoma"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-=
weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Tahoma"><span =
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif&q=
uot;">
<a href=3D"mailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com";>pramatow...@mediageneral.co=
m</a> <a href=3D"mailto:[mailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com]";>
[mailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com]</a> <br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, July 21, 201=
1 2:02 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> MS-Exchange Admin Issues=
<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> RE: stupid question=
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Calibri"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Calibri">=
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">We’re the ones that ar=
e being listed.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Calibri">=
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Calibri">=
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Their admin says their excha=
nge server is blocking us because MS is using backscatterer. &n=
bsp;I found nothing that says MS uses it[1] but figured I’d
ask before sticking my foot all the way in when I replied</span></font><fo=
nt color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Wingdings"><span style=3D"font-family:Wingding=
s;color:#1F497D">J</span></font><font color=3D"#1f497d"><span style=3D"colo=
r:#1F497D">
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Calibri">=
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Calibri">=
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">I don’t know what V th=
ey have but I know bs.org wasn’t in our environment by default.<o:p><=
/o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Calibri">=
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Calibri">=
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Tahoma"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-=
weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Tahoma"><span =
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif&q=
uot;"> Kennedy,
Jim <a href=3D"mailto:[mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]";>[mailto:kenne=
dy...@elyriaschools.org]</a>
<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, July 21, 201=
1 1:17 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> MS-Exchange Admin Issues=
<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> RE: stupid question=
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Calibri"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Calibri">=
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">I would be shocked if MS has=
backscatterer.org automatically built into their spam filter. I would expe=
ct someone added it to your system, track
it down and remove it if you want.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Calibri">=
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Tahoma"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-=
weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Tahoma"><span =
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif&q=
uot;">
<a href=3D"mailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com";>pramatow...@mediageneral.co=
m</a> <a href=3D"mailto:[mailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com]";>
[mailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com]</a> <br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, July 21, 201=
1 1:05 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> MS-Exchange Admin Issues=
<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> stupid question<o:p=
></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Calibri"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Calibri"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Calibri"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:11.0pt">Especially since backscatter was mentioned here not long ago=
</span></font><font face=3D"Wingdings"><span style=3D"font-family:Wingdings=
">L</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Calibri"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Calibri"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:11.0pt">What their admin said:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size=3D"2" f=
ace=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Couri=
er New"">Jon found that the IP address her email is coming from (199.1=
93.13.250)</span></font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p></o=
:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size=3D"2" f=
ace=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Couri=
er New"">is blacklisted at backscatterer.org. Microsoft has picked up =
that</span></font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size=3D"2" f=
ace=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Couri=
er New"">blacklist and won't allow it into our system.</span></font><f=
ont size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Arial","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Calibri"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:11.0pt">Does MS/forefront use backscatterer.org to actually do black=
listing?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Calibri"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:11.0pt">I may be wrong but is this not a service they would have to =
select on their servers (same as choosing any other service) ?<o:p></o:p></=
span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Calibri"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Calibri"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:11.0pt"><a href=3D"http://www.mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=3D=
blacklist%3a199.193.13.250">http://www.mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=
=3Dblacklist%3a199.193.13.250</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Calibri"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Calibri"><span style=3D"fon=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Calibri"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:11.0pt">Thanks,’<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Calibri"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:11.0pt">Paul<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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