James, Forgive the questions, but I'm at a medium-sized shop and am just trying to put the pieces together.
How big are the 16 drives you have in, presumably, the 8 RAID-1 pairs ? Each MBX server has 2 MSA70 SAS arrays directly attached via RAID10 via an external SAS controller installed inside each MBX server, correct? That setup just plain sounds really cool and really intense... technically speaking. Thanks for the info. I'm thinking about budgeting for something similar to the MSA70 for a document management project upcoming for 2012. On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Rupprecht, James R <jimruppre...@ku.edu>wrote: > 70,000 seats (soon to be 80,000). 2G quota > 2 HUB, 5 CAS, 9 MBX all physical > 3 replicas, one will move off-site in the next six months > Netscaler HLB for CAS systems > MBX servers are HP DL380 G6, 72G ram > MBX servers have 16 internal 2.5 SAS drives for boot, swap, utility and > transaction logs. Disks run in mirrored pairs > MBX servers each have 2 HP MSA70 2.5 SAS fully-populated arrays attached > RAID10. Current drives are 600G. Future expansion will happen by replacing > drives with larger capacity spindles and adding up to 1 additional MSA70 if > needed. > Backup hourly using DPM 2010 to DAS. In this case the disks are 2T SATA > spindles. > Weekly full backup from DPM to spectralogic tape robot. > > Our entire E2010 infrastructure (not including the robot which handles > backup for many other systems) cost less than half of what a single 240 disk > SAN frame would have cost. > > MS says their SAS failure rates are about 2 1/2 percent a year... this is > about what we are seeing too. > > > > From: Harry Singh [mailto:hbo...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 12:54 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Exchange 2010 Disk Configuration > > Apologize for the semi-hijack, but what kind of disks, disk enclosures and > connections to the servers are you DAS folks using? Anyone using DAS against > a virtualized Exchange box inside VMware? > > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Phil Hershey <phers...@agia.com> wrote: > We’re not upgrading our iSCSI SAN. Not only is it much less expensive, DAS > is much faster for us. > > Phil Hershey > Caprinteria, CA > > > From: Brian McGloin [mailto:sms...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 10:44 AM > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Exchange 2010 Disk Configuration > > We're seeing it costing about $40,000 less. > On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Harry Singh <hbo...@gmail.com> wrote: > Out of curiosity, to those who already have large investments in their SAN, > why are you choosing the DAS route ? > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Steve Ens <stevey...@gmail.com> wrote: > When I speak of DAS, I mean direct attached...disks are in the server > (SCSI). I backup over the LAN for now, with my goal to setup a DAG on a > separate box that is connected to a SAN. > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Brian McGloin <sms...@gmail.com> wrote: > Steve, > Do you back your DAS up to the SAN? > Fibrechannel connect to the SAN? iSCSI? > > Thx > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Steve Ens <stevey...@gmail.com> wrote: > I have a SAN, but chose to put the Exchange store on DAS (isn't that just > storage directly attched ((internal or external)) to the server?). Works > fine, in a Hyper V VM. > OT - the new Hyper V features in Windows Server vnext look to be > awesome.... > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Brian McGloin <sms...@gmail.com> wrote: > We have a large SAN investment, but we're also considering DAS. > Michael, do you have any customers that have implemented DAS when they own > a SAN? > Right now, we're questioning how we'd back up the DAS environment if we > went that direction. > > Thx in advance > On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 9:09 AM, Michael B. Smith <mich...@smithcons.com> > wrote: > That amount that the data will grow is almost completely based on your SIS. > I’ve seen between 20% and 50%. I won’t say that 200% or 300% is impossible – > but I’d say it’s atypical. > > The only clients I have that are using SAN already have a large SAN > investment. New deployments have been DAS, almost exclusively. > > Regards, > > Michael B. Smith > Consultant and Exchange MVP > http://TheEssentialExchange.com > > From: McCready, Rob [mailto:rob.mccrea...@dplinc.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 9:06 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: Exchange 2010 Disk Configuration > > Greetings Gurus, > We currently have 400GB worth of data on our Exchange 2007 setup. From > what I’ve read, we can expect that to double or triple when we move to > Exchange 2010 and lose single instance storage. > What type of disk configuration are you using for 2010? 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