I've been fascinated by this thread. I'm in the planning stages of our Exchange 
2010 environment (migrating from 2007), and saw some video sessions from TechEd 
which discussed the possibility of JBOD databases in a DAG, single item 
recovery turned on, circular logging turned on and no backups being necessary. 
This sounded fabulous to me, why shouldn't it work if you've got geographical 
distribution of the databases? It's just like RAID 5 written very large... 
However, I've been told this configuration significantly increases disk 
IOPs--please comment...

--Bernadette Gerber, Systems Administrator

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup of Exchange 2010

To add-on to Missy's response - SingleItemRecovery enhances the capabilities of 
the dumpster and removes plausible deniability for item purges and changes. 
This allows Litigation Hold to be built on top of SingleItemRecovery, which was 
not possible with the original Dumpster.

You may or may not be aware: with Dumpster 1.0, it's possible for a user to 
actually purge items from the dumpster and therefore claim they never received 
an item (plausible deniability of both the user and any "full control" accessor 
of the mailbox) and it's also possible for them to modify the original item 
they received, thus corrupting the content for potentially nefarious reasons 
(again, plausible deniability concerning the content of a message).

With Dumpster 2.0, the user experience does not change, but the Discovery Admin 
has the capability of proving actions and accessing original content. As well 
as restoring the original content in the case of single mistakes...

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Hurley, Leslie L CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 58320 
[mailto:leslie.hur...@navy.mil]
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 12:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup of Exchange 2010

Michael,

How does SingleItemRecovery effect the DAG? Or what we recovery from the DAG? 
I'm hearing from another MS person that it doesn't...

LH*

Leslie Hurley
Systems Engineer
SPAWAR Atlantic, Security+, Masters of Science CS-IA

Fight Harder, Dig Deeper, Last Longer


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 17:39
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup of Exchange 2010

Really, what's the chance you are going to detect that before your backups 
expire?

I'm giving a talk on this at Exchange Connections in Vegas at the end of 
October - please attend! (To Backup Or Not To Backup - That Is The Question! - 
that was my working title, they may have renamed it.)

As long as SingleItemRecovery is enabled, your Deleted Item Retention and 
Deleted Mailbox Retention are set to reasonable (for your company) values, and 
you have a DAG copy in a "safe" location - the need for backups (other than 
making you feel "warm and fuzzy") is arguable.
Dependent, of course, upon specific statutory needs not covered here.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 5:34 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup of Exchange 2010

And to cover your butt in the unlikely event of a corrupt database.

-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 3:46 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Backup of Exchange 2010

If I have my mailbox servers setup in a DAG, is the only reason to backup to 
disk/tape to cover the "oops, where'd that message go?"
issues?

If you do backup to disk/tape, what type of retention do you have?  And, yes, I 
know the retention issue is extremely subjective, depending on legal 
requirements, etc.  Just curious.


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