Ted Cooper wrote:
> !!!!!!!  131.111.8.0/24 is black listed from queries to URIBL public 
> mirrors  !!!!!!!!!!!! (tahini .. the cam.ac.uk network .. or part thereof)
> 
> W B Hacker wrote:
>> Side issue - NOW we have a mystery - not sure if it is related - 
>> *attempting* to 
>> copy you directly.
>>   
> Quite interesting. My server added the higher than average negative spam 
> score on my outbound (I think) so it looks like I'm leaking there ;) But 
> since it's less than 5, I'm not adding anything but that single header. 
> I received both of these emails and it looks like I didn't have anything 
> to do with the rejection of the bounced mail. Mailing list went nuts?
>> My goal was to add spam demerits for that 'race' of MTA (above)
>>
>> CAVEAT: in my environment, and perhaps no other, it has always and only been 
>> used to send very obvious UCE or phish.
>>   
> I've seen PowerMTA in a lot of spam that's trying to pass off as ok, but 
> it's also used by a few people in the travel industry so I can't be very 
> abusive towards.
>> But .. on the way to the theatre, both my original post and your reply post 
>> were 
>> whacked with outrageous SA scores and shunted off to a quarantine folder.
>>
>> Headers appear to show THREE passes thru SA at various points, scores 
>> ranging 
>> from a high positive to a higher-then-average negative, and a third score in 
>> the 
>> middle.
>>
>> Given the rather innocent message content, it looks as if at least one of us 
>> is 
>> already filtering on that very string - the one naming the MTA.
>>
>> I don't see any other content that is out of the ordinary.
>>
>> Relevant headers from my post and your reply below.
>>
>>   
> On my post, I'm guessing mxa.outb is adding the -4.1, tahini is adding 
> the 1.4 and you're adding the 4.0. The first header is my MUA not an MTA 
> even though my rDNS is setup for a mail server. I got that setup and 
> then never moved my outbound host ;)
> 
> The weird this is the URIBL and URIBL_PH_SURBL hits ... what did I send 
> again??
> 
> X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL=-3.000, BAYES_00=-1.5,
>       FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, URIBL_BLACK=3,
>       URIBL_PH_SURBL=2.8 autolearn=no version=3.1.8
> 
> 
> !!!!!!!  131.111.8.0/24 is black listed from queries to URIBL public 
> mirrors  !!!!!!!!!!!!
> 
> I'm guessing that might explain the whack scores.
> 
> 

Perhaps odder yet - my SA applied the highest score, yet is has Bayes OFF and 
if 
it has started doing any form of RBL, I've got to have a go at it and see what 
the upgrades have dragged in under the radar.

Did see a mention of filtering for PowerMTA in the SA list, but haven't seen 
any 
code yet. DATA is 'too late' to block on that - I don't want the message on 
board.

.. and 'travel industry'?

If there is anything left of it after TSA and volcanic ash disruptions, they 
can 
use a more polite MTA  - else pack it in, retrain as parasites and run for 
public office.

Bill




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