On 5 Jul 2021, at 14:00, Cyborg via Exim-users wrote:

Am 05.07.21 um 13:19 schrieb Niels Kobschätzki via Exim-users:
The problem is the identification because you usually get to know it only, when the accounts are actively misused. If I get to know that users where specifically targeted I inform them. And at 2am in the night it might already be too late (you landed yourself on blacklists) - even though you still kick them from the system.


If you don't wanne use a form of 2FA, it could be impossible to identify hacked accounts before they spam.

The nature of a hacked account is, that the attacker has obtained the credentials from a PC and it's mailprogram oder via phising. In both cases, they have a valid set of credentials, do not produce any login error ( bruteforcing ) and their first login is most likely the moment they start spamming.

A 2FA could add the IP to a database(file) and you only accept mails from ips in this list + credentials. The 2FA could be a Website to login or an android app.

I know that I can only detect them after the fact - actually after they started and I can act on it then. I want to automate the acting upon it. This is about damage mitigation when the preventive measures didn’t help.

Niels

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