Phil:
How recent is your experience, what was cost of visa (and type), and did you
need insurance?
Charles


On 11/25/08 4:03 PM, "Philip Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> To all the folks who need to renew/secure the Russian visa - try Belgrade,
> Serbia.  Americans don't need a visa.  Just go to the Russian consulate.  They
> use a short form, and after waiting in line for your turn, it only takes a few
> moments if your have your invitation in order.  Then you go to the bank and
> pay, return with the receipt and get the visa.  The office is only open a
> couple of days a week and only in the morning.  Get there early for a place in
> line - say 8:30 or even earlier - and don't forget to get a number from the
> gentleman guarding the gate.
>  
> I use a service in Moscow to get the invitation properly done - Dave's.
> Reasonable and no hassle.
> 
> Phil Smith
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 23:40:10 +0300
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Expat List Belarus visa...
> 
> Hmmm...
> 
> I would never attempt traveling to Belarus without a visa, as an American.
> 
> One fine day, five years ago, when some chap named Alexander was returning to
> Moscow with his fiancee from a romantic week in Prague, he thought he could
> get through Belarus without a visa.  He thought is "incoming" transit visa was
> good enough, though expired.  What ensued?  Alexander got a free escort to
> Warsaw.  No chances for bribes, negotiations, nothing.  "Off to Warshava for
> you, Amerikanski."
> 
> Yes, I was coming in from Europe that time.  Yes, if you get denied at the
> border, you'll simply get stuck in Russia (until your Russian visa runs out.
> :)
> 
> I mean, why not just pay the $40 for a Belarus visa?!?
> 
> It simply boggles my mind how many "cool visa shortcuts" I hear from expats.
> I get the impression that some people have very little to lose.  And I've
> heard literally dozens of bad-luck stories from people trying to cut corners.
> 
> To Americans in Russia, needing a new Russian visa, I say:
> * If you need a visa FAST: fly to NYC.
> * If you need a visa CHEAP, and you can wait a week or two, pick a town in
> Europe where you have friends/a place to stay.  (Belarus is fine -- but get a
> damn visa.)
> I simply see NO point in cutting a $40 corner.  The Belorussians CAN mess with
> you for not having a visa.   The Belorussians also CAN demand a 10-day waiting
> period at the Russian consulate there.  Maybe they WON'T, but -- Hell Yes,
> They CAN.
> 
> I don't care if it's been done successfully a billion times.  This
> seat-of-the-pants "wonder-solution" is NOT something I'd recommend to any
> American with a family who they love, or an important job, waiting for them
> back in Russia.
> 
> I've been living in Moscow for 6 years, as an independent.  I don't take
> chances anymore.
> 
> REGISTRATION:
> 
> About the registration, I have to agree 100% there.  No need to use a
> "service."  However, the Registering Party MUST submit paperwork (mail a
> letter) when your visa expires, or whenever you leave the city for 3+ days.
> If you violate this rule, the fines can be disastrous to the party who
> registered you.  (Never happened to me, but the Codex stipulates fines in the
> tens of thousands of bucks -- even to private parties.)
> 
> All the best, and good luck!
> 
> -Alexander
> 
> 
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