I can also recommend Harry Kerbs over at movers.ru They have moved my belongings & provided storage over many years & have done a great job, including re-packing, full delivery (upstairs, down cellars) & unpacking. They even sent a Manager on a train to Yaroslavl to oversee the delivery process!! There prices are very competitive to boot.
John Riley -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 November 2008 12:09 To: [email protected] Subject: Expat Digest, Vol 49, Issue 33 Send Expat mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.lists.ru/mailman/listinfo/expat or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Expat digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Expat List Vaccination in Moscow for Yellow Fever (Anthony Corbett) 2. Re: Belarus visa... (Charles Borden) 3. Moving household effects from Moscow to Berlin (Kirill Galetski) (Michael Cordy) 4. RE: Computer Help (ElectronintorgMrktg-SergeyOrlov) 5. RE: Vaccination in Moscow for Yellow Fever (ElectronintorgMrktg-SergeyOrlov) 6. Re: Moving household effects (Paulina) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:42:30 +0300 From: "Anthony Corbett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Expat List Vaccination in Moscow for Yellow Fever To: "The Moscow Expat List" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Colleagues of mine went to Polyclinica 13 and also to a Privivochny Tsentr on Neglinnaya 14 2008/11/25 Matthew Schaaf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Anybody have an idea on where to get a yellow fever vaccination in Moscow? > I'm getting ready for an Africa trip. > > I've tried European Medical Center and American Medical Center, but they > don't do it, and suggested I go to Poliklinika 13 on Neglinaya ul. I went > there and it had large line and a facility that didn't instill much > confidence. The only other place that I know of is International SOS, but > they actually just bring you over to Poliklinika 13 to do it, and then > charge you a boatload more. > > Thanks for any advice. > > -Matthew > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Expat mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.lists.ru/mailman/listinfo/expat > http://www.expat.ru/forum/ > -- Anthony Corbett Head of International M&A Vimpelcom 4 Krasnoproletarskaya St. Moscow 127006 Russian Federation T: +7909 991 7783 M: +7962 942 1682 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] S: anthonycorbett -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.lists.ru/pipermail/expat/attachments/20081126/fdf0eed2/attachment -0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 22:25:47 +0300 From: Charles Borden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Expat List Belarus visa... To: The Moscow Expat List <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Phil: How recent is your experience, what was cost of visa (and type), and did you need insurance? Charles On 11/25/08 4:03 PM, "Philip Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To all the folks who need to renew/secure the Russian visa - try Belgrade, > Serbia. Americans don't need a visa. Just go to the Russian consulate. They > use a short form, and after waiting in line for your turn, it only takes a few > moments if your have your invitation in order. Then you go to the bank and > pay, return with the receipt and get the visa. The office is only open a > couple of days a week and only in the morning. Get there early for a place in > line - say 8:30 or even earlier - and don't forget to get a number from the > gentleman guarding the gate. > > I use a service in Moscow to get the invitation properly done - Dave's. > Reasonable and no hassle. > > Phil Smith > > > > > > Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 23:40:10 +0300 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Expat List Belarus visa... > > Hmmm... > > I would never attempt traveling to Belarus without a visa, as an American. > > One fine day, five years ago, when some chap named Alexander was returning to > Moscow with his fiancee from a romantic week in Prague, he thought he could > get through Belarus without a visa. He thought is "incoming" transit visa was > good enough, though expired. What ensued? Alexander got a free escort to > Warsaw. No chances for bribes, negotiations, nothing. "Off to Warshava for > you, Amerikanski." > > Yes, I was coming in from Europe that time. Yes, if you get denied at the > border, you'll simply get stuck in Russia (until your Russian visa runs out. > :) > > I mean, why not just pay the $40 for a Belarus visa?!? > > It simply boggles my mind how many "cool visa shortcuts" I hear from expats. > I get the impression that some people have very little to lose. And I've > heard literally dozens of bad-luck stories from people trying to cut corners. > > To Americans in Russia, needing a new Russian visa, I say: > * If you need a visa FAST: fly to NYC. > * If you need a visa CHEAP, and you can wait a week or two, pick a town in > Europe where you have friends/a place to stay. (Belarus is fine -- but get a > damn visa.) > I simply see NO point in cutting a $40 corner. The Belorussians CAN mess with > you for not having a visa. The Belorussians also CAN demand a 10-day waiting > period at the Russian consulate there. Maybe they WON'T, but -- Hell Yes, > They CAN. > > I don't care if it's been done successfully a billion times. This > seat-of-the-pants "wonder-solution" is NOT something I'd recommend to any > American with a family who they love, or an important job, waiting for them > back in Russia. > > I've been living in Moscow for 6 years, as an independent. I don't take > chances anymore. > > REGISTRATION: > > About the registration, I have to agree 100% there. No need to use a > "service." However, the Registering Party MUST submit paperwork (mail a > letter) when your visa expires, or whenever you leave the city for 3+ days. > If you violate this rule, the fines can be disastrous to the party who > registered you. (Never happened to me, but the Codex stipulates fines in the > tens of thousands of bucks -- even to private parties.) > > All the best, and good luck! > > -Alexander > > > _______________________________________________ > Expat mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.lists.ru/mailman/listinfo/expat > http://www.expat.ru/forum/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.lists.ru/pipermail/expat/attachments/20081126/00b8496f/attachment -0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 05:32:24 -0900 From: Michael Cordy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Expat List Moving household effects from Moscow to Berlin (Kirill Galetski) To: <[email protected]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Kirill, I saw your posting on the expat list. I know of a really good moving company that I used to move from Moscow to the U.S back in 2005. Very reliable and they were very reasonable in price. The company is German and is located in the building that used to be the DDR embassy. Contact Harry Krebs at: +7 (495) 933 43 21 Office [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers Michael Cordy> Message: 5> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 16:56:32 +0300> From: Kirill Galetski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Subject: Expat List Moving household effects from Moscow to Berlin> To: [email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r> > Hi,> > I'm moving to Berlin, Germany and I need to move a set of household effects that includes mostly clothes and books with a couple of small items of furniture.> > If you've done this sort of move (from Russia to Western Europe -- or perhaps the other direction would apply in some respects as well), I'd like to hear from you about the most cost effective method(s) to do this -- postmail, rail, air, ground. > > Tips on whether (or not) to use specific moving companies would be appreciated. Specific ricing information would be appreciated even more.> > Best regards,> Kirill.> > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home: +49 (0)30 67 92 58 58> Office: +49 (0)30 28 87 58 72> Mobile: +49 (0)157 76 50 86 29> Skype: kirill.galetski -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.lists.ru/pipermail/expat/attachments/20081126/62acdbd8/attachment -0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:22:13 +0300 From: "ElectronintorgMrktg-SergeyOrlov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Expat List Computer Help To: "'Vladimir'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'The Moscow Expat List'" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAABv/92pOCnVFvTzJtD7ENlPCgAAAEAAAAL7I7xpTfD1Auvp3rfQB [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dear Vladimir, 1. If your hard disk is so malicious I would rather suggest to format it and re-install all software. If you would need all in one and cheap I would then suggest that you install Linux Ubuntu package, which is much much less susceptible to infections, and a free OpenOffice package. 2. You may also try to download the free DrWeb virus cleaner from ftp://ftp.drweb.com/pub/drweb/cureit/launch.exe , and better start it in Safe Mode of Windows. This bastard really helps. 3. If you have Akado or possibly some other broadband provider they also provide DrWeb for free for a certain period of time. Sincerely, Sergey Orlov, Marketing Director, Electronintorg SP, Tel +7-495-2280766 Fax +7-495-7873869 Mob +7-916-3929803 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vladimir Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 11:38 PM To: The Moscow Expat List Subject: Re: Expat List Computer Help Hello Louise, Try using Kaspersky Antivirus or Nod32 Antivirus, they are more stable than Norton! Cheers Monday, November 24, 2008, 3:48:07 PM, you wrote: > Dear all, > I have a Compaq notebook computer however approximately 18 months ago I had a major system failure due to the anti-virus software that was installed at the time (Norton Anti-Virus). > After some technical assitance, I was advised to wipe my hard drive > and re-boot my computer but was advised not to install the Norton anti-virus software again however since then, my computer has picked up >300 viruses and/or infections. > Can anyone suggest a computer repair shop here in Moscow where the assistants speak english? > My Russian is almost non-existent although I am getting better! > Thanks in advance, > Lou > _________________________________________________________________ > See the most popular videos on the web > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/115454061/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Expat mailing list [email protected] http://www.lists.ru/mailman/listinfo/expat http://www.expat.ru/forum/ ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:34:47 +0300 From: "ElectronintorgMrktg-SergeyOrlov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Expat List Vaccination in Moscow for Yellow Fever To: "'The Moscow Expat List'" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAABv/92pOCnVFvTzJtD7ENlPCgAAAEAAAAL0k2S7Gv4ZBo9HsVRET [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dear Matthew: Tripadvisor says: 1. Immune Profilactics Mechnikov Centre - Maliy Kazenniy Lane, 5a, Tel +7(495)917-41-49, +7(495)782-33-93, +7(495)917-08-91 2. Medel Immune Profilactics Centre - Kutuzovskiy 33, bldg 1, +7(495)249-62-50, +7(495)247-86-17, +7(495)730-58-17 Sincerely, Sergey Orlov, Marketing Director, Electronintorg SP, Tel +7-495-2280766 Fax +7-495-7873869 Mob +7-916-3929803 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Schaaf Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 12:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Expat List Vaccination in Moscow for Yellow Fever Anybody have an idea on where to get a yellow fever vaccination in Moscow? I'm getting ready for an Africa trip. I've tried European Medical Center and American Medical Center, but they don't do it, and suggested I go to Poliklinika 13 on Neglinaya ul. I went there and it had large line and a facility that didn't instill much confidence. The only other place that I know of is International SOS, but they actually just bring you over to Poliklinika 13 to do it, and then charge you a boatload more. Thanks for any advice. -Matthew _______________________________________________ Expat mailing list [email protected] http://www.lists.ru/mailman/listinfo/expat http://www.expat.ru/forum/ ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 20:07:02 +0300 From: Paulina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Expat List Re: Moving household effects To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I did move just a couple of weeks ago. Payed crazy money for 2 cubic meters of cloths, shoes, books, some china. Appr. 2000 Euro from Moscow to Stockholm. And Im not even sure when it will be here (6-12 weeks they say). I used Team Allied services and they organize it all with custom etc. You have to make sure there are no art objects or it becomes complicated. Good luck! Paulina Pashkevich Stockholm, Sweden On Wednesday, November 26, 2008, at 05:18PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Send Expat mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.lists.ru/mailman/listinfo/expat >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >You can reach the person managing the list at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Expat digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Computer Help (Vladimir) > 2. Vaccination in Moscow for Yellow Fever (Matthew Schaaf) > 3. Website Designer (ron nathan) > 4. RE: Belarus visa... (Philip Smith) > 5. Moving household effects from Moscow to Berlin (Kirill Galetski) > 6. Re: help??? (M.A.Self) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:38:29 +0300 >From: Vladimir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Expat List Computer Help >To: The Moscow Expat List <[email protected]> >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >Hello Louise, > >Try using Kaspersky Antivirus or Nod32 Antivirus, they are more stable >than Norton! > >Cheers > >Monday, November 24, 2008, 3:48:07 PM, you wrote: > > > >> Dear all, > >> I have a Compaq notebook computer however approximately 18 months ago I had a major system failure due to the anti-virus software that was installed at the time (Norton Anti-Virus). > >> After some technical assitance, I was advised to wipe my hard drive and re-boot my computer but was advised not to install the Norton anti-virus software again however since then, my computer has >> picked up >300 viruses and/or infections. > >> Can anyone suggest a computer repair shop here in Moscow where the assistants speak english? > >> My Russian is almost non-existent although I am getting better! > >> Thanks in advance, > >> Lou >> _________________________________________________________________ >> See the most popular videos on the web >> http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/115454061/direct/01/ > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 01:03:25 -0800 (PST) >From: Matthew Schaaf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Expat List Vaccination in Moscow for Yellow Fever >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >Anybody have an idea on where to get a yellow fever vaccination in Moscow? I'm getting ready for an Africa trip. > >I've tried European Medical Center and American Medical Center, but they don't do it, and suggested I go to Poliklinika 13 on Neglinaya ul. I went there and it had large line and a facility that didn't instill much confidence. The only other place that I know of is International SOS, but they actually just bring you over to Poliklinika 13 to do it, and then charge you a boatload more. > >Thanks for any advice. > >-Matthew > > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 3 >Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 09:58:22 +0000 >From: "ron nathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Expat List Website Designer >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: > <1840403878-1227607140-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2077309945-@ bxe276.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> > >Content-Type: text/plain > >Can anyone recommend a good Moscow-based website designer. >Thanks. >Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 13:03:23 +0000 >From: Philip Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: Expat List Belarus visa... >To: <[email protected]> >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" > > >To all the folks who need to renew/secure the Russian visa - try Belgrade, Serbia. Americans don't need a visa. Just go to the Russian consulate. They use a short form, and after waiting in line for your turn, it only takes a few moments if your have your invitation in order. Then you go to the bank and pay, return with the receipt and get the visa. The office is only open a couple of days a week and only in the morning. Get there early for a place in line - say 8:30 or even earlier - and don't forget to get a number from the gentleman guarding the gate. > >I use a service in Moscow to get the invitation properly done - Dave's. Reasonable and no hassle.Phil Smith > > >Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 23:40:10 +0300From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Expat List Belarus visa...Hmmm...I would never attempt traveling to Belarus without a visa, as an American. One fine day, five years ago, when some chap named Alexander was returning to Moscow with his fiancee from a romantic week in Prague, he thought he could get through Belarus without a visa. He thought is "incoming" transit visa was good enough, though expired. What ensued? Alexander got a free escort to Warsaw. No chances for bribes, negotiations, nothing. "Off to Warshava for you, Amerikanski."Yes, I was coming in from Europe that time. Yes, if you get denied at the border, you'll simply get stuck in Russia (until your Russian visa runs out. :)I mean, why not just pay the $40 for a Belarus visa?!?It simply boggles my mind how many "cool visa shortcuts" I hear from expats. I get the impression that some people have very little to lose. And I've heard literally dozens of b! ad > -luck stories from people trying to cut corners.To Americans in Russia, needing a new Russian visa, I say: > >If you need a visa FAST: fly to NYC. >If you need a visa CHEAP, and you can wait a week or two, pick a town in Europe where you have friends/a place to stay. (Belarus is fine -- but get a damn visa.)I simply see NO point in cutting a $40 corner. The Belorussians CAN mess with you for not having a visa. The Belorussians also CAN demand a 10-day waiting period at the Russian consulate there. Maybe they WON'T, but -- Hell Yes, They CAN.I don't care if it's been done successfully a billion times. This seat-of-the-pants "wonder-solution" is NOT something I'd recommend to any American with a family who they love, or an important job, waiting for them back in Russia.I've been living in Moscow for 6 years, as an independent. I don't take chances anymore.REGISTRATION:About the registration, I have to agree 100% there. No need to use a "service." However, the Registering Party MUST submit paperwork (mail a letter) when your visa expires, or whenever you leave the city for 3+ days. If you violate this rule, the ! fi > nes can be disastrous to the party who registered you. (Never happened to me, but the Codex stipulates fines in the tens of thousands of bucks -- even to private parties.)All the best, and good luck!-Alexander >-------------- next part -------------- >An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >URL: http://www.lists.ru/pipermail/expat/attachments/20081125/3714dd59/attachment -0001.html > >------------------------------ > >Message: 5 >Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 16:56:32 +0300 >From: Kirill Galetski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Expat List Moving household effects from Moscow to Berlin >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r > >Hi, > >I'm moving to Berlin, Germany and I need to move a set of household effects that includes mostly clothes and books with a couple of small items of furniture. > >If you've done this sort of move (from Russia to Western Europe -- or perhaps the other direction would apply in some respects as well), I'd like to hear from you about the most cost effective method(s) to do this -- postmail, rail, air, ground. > >Tips on whether (or not) to use specific moving companies would be appreciated. Specific ricing information would be appreciated even more. > >Best regards, >Kirill. > >E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Home: +49 (0)30 67 92 58 58 >Office: +49 (0)30 28 87 58 72 >Mobile: +49 (0)157 76 50 86 29 >Skype: kirill.galetski > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 6 >Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 09:15:53 -0000 >From: "M.A.Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Expat List help??? >To: "The Moscow Expat List" <[email protected]> >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >Hi >For what it's worth, when I moved to Moscow in 1998, I couldn't wait to get on the next plane home for the first month, and then something magical happened. I fell in love with the Russian people and with Moscow of course. >We had to leave in July 1999 as a result of the financial crisis, and I sobbed my way through immigration - even the desk clerk was almost moved to tears - and all the way back to the UK. I was well and truly hooked. >So determined were we to return that when the first opportunity arose to do so in September 2001, we did - to a city 1000km to the east of Moscow - even that was good enough - after all, it was Russia! >We then returned to Moscow in 2003 and lived there till 2007. I miss it badly. Just to give you an idea of how much, I'm going to a seminar by Edward Lucas, the archetypal anti-Russian, today, in the hope of heckling him. I'm also thinking of joining a Russian singing group in our local town. See - that's how much it gets to you. >I will be back one day. >Martine > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Emin Aliev > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [email protected] > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 1:48 PM > Subject: Re: Expat List help??? > > > Well, Christine, > > > what is the other city in Europe? Otherwise, it's very difficult to compare... > > > - Emin > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > From: Christine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 12:39:46 PM > Subject: Expat List help??? > > Hi Expats- > > I have been offered 2 jobs and am currently trying to decide between them! One is in Moscow and the other is elsewhere! They both pay about the same and include the same types of benefits (free apartment, discount on language lessons...etc) as they are actually with the same company! The only difference is the location...Moscow or another city in Europe. > I don't know much about Moscow today...(I have a limited historical perspective from history class a million years ago)! Can anyone provide me any insights to help me decide? and possibly give me a comparison on safety to some other major cities in the world? I have heard it is kind of like New York or Chicago - there is crime, but if you use the normal precautions (ie don't visit bad neighborhoods at night alone) you should be ok? > > Thanks! > > Christine > > "Remember, Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies." > -The Shawshank Redemption > > "Dort, wo man Buecher verbrennt, verbrennt man auch am Ende Menschen." > > -Heinrich Heine > > > > _______________________________________________ > Expat mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.lists.ru/mailman/listinfo/expat > http://www.expat.ru/forum/ > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > > > _______________________________________________ > Expat mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.lists.ru/mailman/listinfo/expat > http://www.expat.ru/forum/ >-------------- next part -------------- >An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >URL: http://www.lists.ru/pipermail/expat/attachments/20081125/ee1fdfc5/attachment .html > >------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Expat mailing list >[email protected] >http://www.lists.ru/mailman/listinfo/expat > > >End of Expat Digest, Vol 49, Issue 31 >************************************* > > ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Expat mailing list [email protected] http://www.lists.ru/mailman/listinfo/expat End of Expat Digest, Vol 49, Issue 33 ************************************* _______________________________________________ Expat mailing list [email protected] http://www.lists.ru/mailman/listinfo/expat http://www.expat.ru/forum/
