Dustin is absolutely right. He had an unfortunate incident and he warned others about the place. Now it's up to the manager or the owner to set things right.
Message: 4 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:30:25 +0000 From: Chris Manuel <[email protected]> Subject: Expat List RE: Expat Digest, Vol 58, Issue 32 To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Dustin I don't usually bother to write to defend anyone or get involved in infantile comments from people like Andrey, however your comments concerning Papa's are just wrong! I have been in Russia for more years than I care to remember and have had problems with security guards on numerous occasions. This has happened even places where I have been a member....and I am a white Anglo-Saxon non-Russian looking expatriate. I am not sure if you feel that his motives were racially motivated, and they might well have been, but often they like to hassle anyone and everyone; expats and russians included. There is no point in confronting flatheads as we call them (security guards) as they are just looking for an excuse. The thing to do is to put them in their place by not speaking Russian to them for a start and asking for the Manager. Once you have explained the situation to the manager then he will make them look small. Papas is run by a Canadian called Doug Steele who is well known to the expat community and has managed many of it fine establishments over the years including Chesterfields (now the Boar House) and The Hungry Duck amongst many others. Next time ask for him and he will sort things out. He has always looked after the expatriates and Papas is a friendly and fun place to go. I also wonder bearing in mind it was a weekend, whether or not you had had you hand stamped when you went into the bar, or had mentioned to security that you were just going for a smoke? It may well be that you fell foul of the fact that generally on weekends you have to pay to get into Papa's after a certain hour. So please do not run down what is in fact a good bar because you had an unfortunate, but all too common, incident with a security guard!!!! If it has not happened to you before, it will most certainly happen again.... I suspect that you have not been in the Country long but believe me you will find out that what I have said is true. The fact that you have read so many good things about Papas should tell you something as well as the fact that so many long term expatriates drink there. Give it another chance and meet Doug and explain to him what happened. He is very customer orientated and am sure he will sort it out. Bon Chance....
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