Hello I was just looking at www.linux-mandrake.com/kernel2.2 and saw a ref to a clean upgrade from mandrake!! Anyone have any idea how long before this is true?... Mandrake with the iso image file was the easiest install i have ever done, I can only hope that the plans for the clean upgrade are as easy. I tried doing the upgrade myself got it done so fine i couldnt boot:) gotta love a cd bootable bios:) later!