Hi, I can really use your help on this and hope I have givin you enough information. I am confused at why it will not when I follow every thing you are saying to do. Well my machine was down all day saturday while I tried every thing I could think of. Don't worry this machine only tests things so it did not matter. This is what I have happing. 1. I did a full install clicked on the everything. 2. I did the upgrade on everything on the site. 3. I saw there was alot of other kernel files but they were not on the upgrade page do I also need them to install? 4. after upgrade I did the following as stated on your page. A. cd /lib/modules B. ln -sf 2.2.3-1 preffered 1. the step above failed to do anything at all the link was still for 2.0.36 . 5. I did a rm perferred and then a ln -s 2.2.3-1 preffered now it is correctly shown to be to 2.2.3-1 6. Then depmod -a it says can't open /lib/modules/2.0.36/modules.dep 7. then modprobe -a * I am not shure if this did anything? but no fail message. 8. I found if I did the following then it seemed to work modprobe -c | grep -v '^path' > /etc/conf.modules I then changed lil0.conf and did /sbin/lilo and rebooted. The system came up under 2.2.3-1 and kde work so I thought I had it made then I tried to telnet and found that I had many routing tables that should not be there and I could not fix them NOTE: I am using an NE2000 or compatable network card. Is this card supported in this kernel? MY question is should I also install the follow files I found on your page at and did you have them installed when you did your upgrade? ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/kernel2.2/RPMS/ there are 6 other kernel files that are not on the following page http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/kernel2.2-upgrade.html being said to upgrade to. Thanks alot for making linux-mandrake I love it. Bob