I hate to keep pestering you all with these problem but my Mandrake installation has developed a new quirk I cannot solve I normally boot into runlevel 5 and log in as a normal user. Up until recently, this worked fine but now the first time anyone besides root tries to login with kdm, the X-Server quits, leaving behind the following message the log file: kdm[811]: Cannot open server authorization file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/authdir/A:0-swTFiV Which makes sense because the file does not exist! The missing file name is different every time so it looks like a temporary file but where is it supposed to be created? What did I break to cause this? If I drop to a TTY screen, log in as root, telinit 3, wait a few seconds, and telinit 5, the X-server comes back and every thing works normally This looks like a permission problem but permission to what from what? Even when I created an authdir in usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/ (which is a symlink to /etc/X11/xdm) a normal user cannot login until after the telinit 3 -- telinit 5 procedure described above. -- Stephen Carville [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---------------------------------------------------- There are two kinds of people: those who do the work and those who take the credit. Try to be in the first group; there is less competition there. Indira Gandhi