ptah wrote: :this maybe an obvious answer, but where can I find mandrake rpms that :were not included in my 7.0 distriubtion? Are you looking for something like the Mandrake Update executable? I click on the Update icon periodically (in X windows) to see if anything new is out. If you don't have the update utility, I think it's called "MandrakeUpdate-7.0-12mdk.i586.rpm" and can be found in the rpm section of the 7.0 directories on the ftp sites. james