Probably the biggest problem I have in Linux is getting things that aren't pre-installed to work. It doesn't matter if it is tar'ed or RPM'ed, most of the time various things I download just don't work. It will complain that some dependency isn't met, and even after you go get the required file it still doesn't work. Some people claim that this is fixed in Debain Linux and its varients, but I have never used them so I don't know. Linux needs a standardized installation system. If you are missing something you should be told exactly what you are missing and where you can get the required file. Things like shockwave should be much easier to use as well. If you are wondering what all I have tried that doesn't work a short list would be: everybuddy, gaim, the gnome text editor, Myth2, etc. Finally, I am not asking you how to make these things work, I know all the handy dandy command line commands, I am asking for an improment in an area that Linux is sorely lacking. And to all of you who have no problem getting things to install and work, good for you. Payne ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com