hi again, one more problem I found : have downloaded kisdn, installed it and called kcmkisdn - was okay. But calling kisdn results in a commandline-messages, that it would be up and running, but nothing to see. Where is the kisdn-menue ? Any ideas, what's going on here ? My system : mdk V7.0 (Air), ATI Mach 64 GB, but it's a Rage Pro 128, a so called "Fury" therefore I've installed X11 3.6. Thanks in advance for your help Hans Schneidhofer