vern....the cheaper ones are mass produced, usually by an
outside contractor and the more expensive ones are burned
individually by a CD-R usually in-house.  The pre-oder is
because of the lead time required by the outside contractor to
produce a significant order (don't know how many probably 1000
or more) and ship it to CheapBytes.

Alan


vern wrote:
> 
> I have a similar question on Cheapbytes one version is
> called CDR and the other is just CD, so why the difference??
> Also the one you have to preorder and wait for is about
> half the price of the other. So having much more time than
> money guess which I sent away for??
> vern
> 
> Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> >
> > Benjamin....you must have assumed that the content of your
> > CD's was downloaded from the web because according to Bryan
> > Kennedy of LinuxLand/Circadian Software, LinuxLand does not
> > ftp the iso's from one of the mirrors on the web.  They get
> > master CD's shipped to them from the Paris office of
> > MandrakeSoft which are then used to individually burn the CD's
> > that they sell.
> >
> > What do you mean by anomolies?  My CD set is fine.
> >
> > Alan
> >
> > Benjamin Sher wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Civilme and friends:
> > >
> > > I heard today from a member of Mandrakesoft's staff. It was indeed a bug
> > > in the FTP download. It has been fixed and will soon be operational in
> > > all the mirror sites.
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: [Notice] 7.1 -- 2-CD download mystery -- How is it done?
> > > Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:14:03 +0200 (CEST)
> > > From: Jean-loup Gailly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: Benjamin Sher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > References: 1
> > >
> > > Benjamin wrote:
> > >
> > > > Well, as it turns out, there seems to be NO WAY to download the new
> > > > Mandrake 7.1 by FTP.
> > >
> > > Thanks for your report.
> > >
> > > Response from Jean-loup Gailly:
> > >
> > > "On the ftp site, the directories RPMS and RPMS2 had been merged but
> > > the file hdlists expected them to be separated. I have separated the
> > > directories again. This should be soon reflected in the mirror sites."
> > >
> > > Jean-loup Gailly
> > >
> > > He further assured me that the FTP floppy download (using network.img)
> > > will now automatically switch from the first CD (RPM) to the second CD
> > > (RPM2) without a hitch. I would suggest waiting a day or so to be sure
> > > that all mirrors are functioning properly.
> > >
> > > Personally, I was quite disappointed with the 2-CD version I got from
> > > LinuxLand. It was what I wanted, so I have no right to complain: 2-cd
> > > 7.1 burned from their FTP download. I had so many problems and anomalies
> > > that I have decided that from on, no more FTP downloads (except for
> > > individual files, where necessary). I have already ordered the OFFICIAL
> > > Linux-Mandrake PowerPack 7.0 made by Mandrakesoft (not by Macmillain)
> > > from LinuxMall, only $65 overnight delivery (6 CD plus 2 books). Worth
> > > every penny. And when LM PowerPack 7.1 comes out in July, I'll get that
> > > and every PowerPack upgrade in the future. No more anxiety, no more
> > > pulling my hair out, no more wondering whether the FTP download was
> > > really successful, plus 100 days of free email support. It's worth my
> > > peace of mind. I'll have my 7.0 tomorrow morning, and this madness
> > > should finally be over.
> > >
> > > Well, I am glad I did help Mandrake troubleshoot the download bug. It
> > > was a real one, and hopefully will help many others dowload their
> > > Mandrake.
> > >
> > > And thank you for going out of your way to help. In fact, it was you, I
> > > believe, who diagnosed the "kpppload" problem. I would have never
> > > guessed it. So, you share in the glory of exposing and correcting this
> > > fatal FTP download bug.
> > >
> > > I've asked Jean-loup to send a message to the Mandrake lists informing
> > > them of this situation. I hope he does.
> > >
> > > Benjamin
> > >
> > > --
> > > Benjamin and Anna Sher
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sher's Russian Web
> > > http://www.websher.net

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