Has anyone gotten a joystick (Gravis Xterminator gamepad, specifically) working with a CMI8330-based sound card? isapnp.conf is setup correctly. 'insmod joystick.o' works fine. But 'insmod joy-gravis.o' doesn't work. I've tried with a MS Sidewinder 3D Pro and the joy-sidewinder module and that doesn't work. The joy-analog module doesn't even work. In stupid windoze the thing is just fine. I've no clue what going on here. Please help, Tim ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com