I have found the enlightenment installation in 8.0b2 to be lacking in all respects. I have noticed that some features are missing from the "standard" enlightenment toolkit like menu regeneration. Then, when new users select enlightenment, they get no menus to start with -- used to get links to gnome and kde programs etc. When I ran e_gen_menu by hand (missing menu regeneration as stated earlier) it failed miserably with all kinds of errors. So, is anyone at Mandrake working this? The reason I ask, if you are not, then I will then send you the updates. If you are, could I get a patch? I hate duplicating effort. Al