Yeah....next day when I cold-booted, the kapm-idled was gone, everything back to normal on the CPU. I'd been running the system for 16 hours when the kapm-idled began hogging the CPU cycles, so who knows? Why would an idle loop grab 80% of the CPU cycles if it's not even a process? I'm not savvy when it comes to kernel internals, so forgive me my stupification....;-)~ The messages, though, continue.....I hadn't seen this in earlier 2.4.x kernel versions, but I've experienced very similar behavior after installing FreeBSD 4.1/4/2. Someone on a FBSD list told me it was a timing issue with AMD chipsets, correctable by recompiling the kernel without APM....of course, I couldn't stabilize the system enough to recompile! ;-) I hope Mandrake takes notice of this, since at least now we know we are not isolated cases. The error message itself seems to point to problems with VIA/AMD Athlon chipsets causing clock timing problems, so it's at least pointing to possible causes/solutions. Otherwise, if no fix is forthcoming, I either better install a good log-cleaning utility or jump back to 7.2! And that won't be easy, 'cause I finally got TuxRacer working! <G> Tom Will wrote: > > I see the messages too. It souds like the bug I was complaining about on the > list a few days ago (video dies when disk activity is high). Hopefully if > the new kernel is detecting the bug, it can work around it. We shall see. > > Kapm-idled is the idle loop in kernel 2.4.x, it's not a real process. > > On Monday 23 April 2001 00:55, you wrote: > > Install of 8.0 went well, and this version is really beautiful! But we > > do have some anomalies, perhaps with the new kernel 2.4.3, that did not > > show up in 2.4.1 or 2.4.2. > > > > From the time I first rebooted after install, stderr is sending the > > following lines to syslog (from dmesg): > > > > Apr 20 20:25:00 localhost kernel: Calibrating delay loop... <4>probable > > hardware bug: > > clock timer configuration lost - probably a VIA686a motherboard. > > Apr 20 20:25:00 localhost kernel: probable hardware bug: restoring chip > > configuration. > > > > This message repeats through the boot and into syslog during the > > session....syslog and /var/log/messages were up to 15MB in two days. > > > > At the same time, the CPU is getting creamed by the "kapm-idled" process > > (pid 3 on boot), anywhere from 51-85% of the cycles are being grabbed by > > this process. I don't know what this process is, but it looks like it > > has something to do with power management. > > > > At this point, if I confirm that the 2.4.3 kernel is having a problem > > with power management on motherboards with certain Athlon-class > > chipsets, I might recompile the kernel and take out APM, but I hope > > Mandrake can check this out and patch the kernel. > > > > FYI, I did not get these messages/CPU overload problem with kernels > > 2.2.18, 2.4.0 or 2.4.1. > > > > System Info: > > > > Athlon 650 MHz > > MSI-6195 mobo (AMD 756 chipset) [note: I had similar problems with > > FreeBSD 4.2 on this board) > > Corsair PC100 CAS2 SDRAM > > > > Appreciate if any Mandrake developers on the list check this out. > > > > Tom Snell > > -- > Madness takes its toll; please have exact change > > Will Reinhart > [EMAIL PROTECTED]