On Wednesday 11 July 2001 14:21, civileme wrote:
> On Tuesday 10 July 2001 21:33, Ken Thompson wrote:
> > On Tuesday 10 July 2001 02:32 am, civileme wrote:
> > > KIndly look at
> > >
> > > http://www.linuxbase.org/spec/
> > >
> > > We will be testing against this for next release.
> > >
> > > 8.0 made many problems. First, during its development, we had to
> > > backport updates to 7.2, because Cooker was not available to 7.2 users
> > > except those who broke their systems by installing glibc2.2.
> > >
> > > We took steps that this situation would not happen again by adopting a
> > > policy for library naming and consequently changing packaging policy to
> > > match, so new libraries could be added with impunity.
> > >
> > > Reiser fs was changed in kernel 2.4. If you install reiser for 2.4 you
> > > may _not_ downgrade to the 2.2 kernel. I have a post on MandrakeForum
> > > about how to install 2.2 kernel on 8.0 with Reiserfs
> > >
> > > http://www.mandrakeforum.com/article.php?sid=754&lang=en
> > >
> > > And this allows an upgrade later. So far, it appears that the Reiser
> > > supplied with 2.2 is more stable by far and we came close to breaking
> > > the kernel with all the patches to get the new reiser to work, nfs
> > > taking the heavy hit.
> > >
> > > But I do see a lot of complaining about incompatibilities here and
> > > elsewhere. Well , software grows and changes. The same folks
> > > complaining about incompatibilities are often downloading tarballs or
> > > i386 rpms for other distros to get packages that they can find with
> > > i586.mdk directly in /contribs. Then, when asked, "Well, I wanted the
> > > latest version" Then, when shown the latest version in cooker, "But
> > > that's untested!" Well, where do they think we got the package to
> > > repackage for cooker?
> > >
> > > Anyway, we are advocates of standards. There are precisely two distros
> > > where the menus are as identical as possible across window managers,
> > > and ours is one of them. Of course some folks who develop desktops
> > > have their own ideas about that and decided we "aren't a priority"
> > > though we gave them all our info, so we lack the availability of a
> > > desktop that wants to do things their way. Eventually, standards will
> > > be developed for those things (there arlready are some, as in how
> > > Window managers should communicate) and the issue will become a
> > > non-issue.
> > >
> > > Open standards can enhance development efforts and provide room for
> > > creativity and for long-lived software. We hope to see those sorts of
> > > standards adopted. As you will note in the link, there is a place to
> > > post comments for the LSB.
> > >
> > > Civileme
> >
> > My question is, a while back we were advised NOT to use cooker packages,
> > are we then able to use them in 8.0??????
>
> There was a library incompatibility in 8.0 versus 7.2. Beginning with 8.0
> we have a library naming policy (which we hope becomes a standard) so you
> CAN ad new versions of everything including glibc without breaking your
> system.
>
> Currently Cooker is on the same libs, generally speaking, that work with
> 8.0, but even if you need a new one, it is THERE and it CAN BE ADDED
> without affecting your system. We wanted no repeats of the 7.2-8.0 hiatus,
> not ever.
>
> Of course if a cooker package use turns you into a blue whale, don't expect
> us to supply you with plankton and krill. :-)
>
> Civileme
LOL Civ,
I have committed the "parable of the blue whale" to memory, to answer folk on
a.o.l.m..
great distro, and funny gurus too:)
