At 05:01 PM 09/08/2001 +0200, joy_ping wrote: >On Sat, 8 Sep 2001, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> >> Moving from mdk7.2 to 8.0 required a complete reinstall to make >> sure no "ghosts from the past" remain to cause problems. > >this is a mandrake thing i think. cause they have some misteries directory >organisation, and they changed it so hard, that it is completly different >from the further releases. its not only unusable for other software, its >unusable for the mandrake-made-updatetools too!! No, this isn't a Mandrake specific thing. This happens occassionally on any release of a new .0 version. For example, when RedHat released 7.0 many things broke, which were then fixed in 7.1 (for example, they included rpm 4.x, which is backwards compatible with 3.x--but the reverse isn't true-- rpm 3.x isn't necessarily upwards compatible with 4.x) . >im know upgrading (since severel weeks) my mk 7.1 box, to a >linux-from-scratch release, and it works better than an mk 8.0 update i >think. only one thing that brings me up is that the rpm-tools wich >provided by this release dont work. for example when i make rpm -e >--nodeps something, there are still some librarys and docs lying around >wich >i have to delete manually. dont know, maybe the database is not set up >properly, i didnt changed anything on this rpm-shit. Actually, rpm -e --nodeps will only delete core binary files--it will not delete the libraries required to run the program. If you want to fully remove a program, you have to run rpm -e <packagename>. If that still doesn't remove everything--well, it's several orders of magnitude worse with windows, which doesn't necessarily remove everything either. >This >> is because massive amounts of upgraded libraries were introduced, >> and many directories were moved. As we have seen so many threads >> here on this list, upgrading a mdk7.2 system in these 8.0 days >> requires compiling SRPMs, and many times, they won't work because >> of the aforementioned upgraded libraries and moved directories. Not true--I've successfully compiled and installed some cooker srpms to work with a Mandrake 7.2 install. What moved directories? As far as I remember there have been no directory changes since 7.0 --the libraries may be newer version, but they have not changed where they put stuff. -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems & Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida
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