Thus spake Charles A Edwards ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 12:47:36 -0800 > Deryk Barker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I've just finished installing 8.1 on two machines - both previously > > running 7.2 > > > > Although I am pleased with the look and feel of the new system there > > are some definite shortcomings (IMHO) in the install/update process > > (if anyone from MDK is listening). > > > > First and this has been brought up before, why is there no "install > > everything" option? I dedicated a 40GB hard drive to this > > installation, I'd much prefer to have installed everything and then > > removed what I didn't want. > > > Even distros such as SuSE and RH which offer an Everything selection, still > do not install all the pkgs. > > With Mandrake during package selection you can toggle to flat list and > manually select every package included in the CDs. > > Be forewarned the installation will only check pkgs for depends, it will > not check for conflicts. > So if you select it, it will be installed and you Will end up with apps > and programs that will not work. > > > > > > Upgrading (which I attempted at work) is unreliable: as had happened > > once before, on a previous upgrade, everything seemed to go OK until > > the pwconv setp at which point the system seemed to go into a loop - I > > despaired after about 15 minutes and hit the reset and decided to do a > > complete install instead. Has anyone else had trouble here? > > > Even when 8.0 was released it was recommended that it be done as a Clean > install not as an upgrade to 7.2. > Since 7.2 both the directory structure and the rpm version have been changed. > > > > > Unfortunately, because of my first point above, I am mow spending > > hours (literally) cleaning up and installing everything I missed. I > > mean, I clicked on every possible box in the main install process and > > still got no command line mail reader installed! > > > > My biggest beef, though, is: what happened to Zope? It came on the > > download disk set for 7.2 but there don't seem to be any 8.2 RPMs > > anywhere on the disks or the Mandrake site. > > > > Come on folks, this is still open source and you used to supply it. An > > "upgrade" which doesn't include functionality you used to provide is > > no upgrade. > ... > Zope was dropped because of its poor security record. > Check Quanta which is included in 8.1 and it performs better than Zope.
If this was a good enough reason to drop zope, why is snedmail still on the CD? The point is that I recall seeing no warnings, no nothing telling me that if I was running a semi-production website via zope (which I am/was) then I'd be facing a fair amount of work to keep it running. -- |Deryk Barker, Computer Science Dept. | Music does not have to be understood| |Camosun College, Victoria, BC, Canada| It has to be listened to. | |email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |phone: +1 250 370 4452 | Hermann Scherchen. |
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