That sounds great, but I don't have 500 hours a day to learn this stuff in. I guess I've been holding out until someone publishes a book something like "How to do every single thing possible that you will ever need to know from the Linux command line....for dummies" That being said, I have learned alot about the config files from the Osbourne Red Hat Linux book, and from manually repairing damage done by GUI tools.
Doug Gough -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lyvim Xaphir Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:13 PM To: ExpertMandrake-List Subject: Re: [expert] Re: linuxconf or webmin? On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 12:44, J. Craig Woods wrote: > BTW, I wouldn't use either one of them. They both have a history of > screwing up config files. As long as you have CLI, and editors, such as > vi or pico, learn to do do admin the way it is meant to be done. One > very late night, when the server is remotely located miles away, and you > just want to finish your work, you will appreciate what I am saying. > > (Hey, you asked for opinions, and you get opinions) > > -- > J. Craig Woods > UNIX/NT Network/System Administration I have to agree with Craig regarding the CLI. The command line is the lowest common denominator when it comes to administration; that implies that the greatest power and leverage lies at that level. GUI based interfaces are good for a quick solution sometimes, IF their history is one of reliability. My experiences regarding linuxconf have mirrored Craig's in that my config files have been foobarred. That admittedly was a year ago; but the bottom line is still and always will be the least common denominator. Which is the CLI. There are always exceptions to the rule. Mandrake Control Center has been singulary impressive. Kudos Mandrake....but the GUI incurs an additional penalty that no one seems to realize except the ignorant-user-savvy MicroSoft Corporation. And that is, simply, it divides the user from the CLI and weakens them in that regard. How? By just giving you an avenue that you don't have to create new neural pathways for in order to handle. So the learning curve gets shorter and more shallow, but the user's power is greatly curtailed. M$ wants this because their interface is more akin to heroin for ignorant users than it is a teaching tool. And addiction is exactly what they are after. IF you have the willpower to force yourself onto the command line continually in order to fully grok all the commands and config file syntaxes that you need to have in order to be a true CLI administrator, then the GUI is for you also. However, if you find yourself leaning towards the GUI because you gravitate away from onerous long and steep mental learning curves, then you need to do away with the GUI functionality until your CLI habits and mentalities are established. One more opinion thrown out there... ;P Cheers, LX -- 같같같같같같같같같같같같같같같같같같같같같같같같같� Kernel 2.4.8-26mdk Mandrake Linux 8.1 Enlightenment 0.16.5 Evolution 1.02 Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ 같같같같같같같같같같같같같같같같같같같같같같같같같� _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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