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Todd Lyons wrote:
> Bob Puff@NLE wrote on Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 02:29:34AM -0400 :
> >
> > 3. I could not locate the pine package anywhere on the disks.
>
> Pine has a commercial license. We are not allowed to distribute a
> modified version.
>
>
Mark Crispin wrote:
> The issue with the "restrictive" license agreement boils down to one major
> issue: if someone wishes to distribute a modified version of Pine, they
> have to ask UW for permission first.
>
> Put another way, UW claims control over what is distributed with the name
> "Pine". It's alright to distribute unmodified Pine; it's alright to
> distribute patches to modify Pine. But if you want to distribute a
> modified Pine, you have to ask first.
>
> One would consider this to be a matter of common courtesy.
>
> We contacted Mandrake about this very question a few months ago. In part,
> the answer from Denis Havlik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> stated:
>
> > [Pine] won't be distributed with a "core distribution" ("download" or
> > "GPL" edition) in the future, but I don't think it can be completely
> > dropped either.
> >
> > In fact, I'm 100% sure that we WILL distribute pine one way or another,
> > because I'm the one in charge of MandrakeClub, and thus have a
> > possibility to add rpms of 'non-free' software to MandrakeClub download
> > area as long as I don't do anything illegal. Stuff we have in 'Club'
> > downloads area should also end up on our 'Commercial CDs', so they will
> > be distributed with our packs, and once the RPMs are done, every club
> > member can download them. In case the licence allows it (pine licence
> > does), they are also free to further dissemenate them in any way they
> > see fit, so I don't think we'll see a real shortage of pine RPMs for
> > mandrake in a near future.
>
> In other words, Mandrake told us that they will continue to distribute
> Pine as before, just not as part of their "core GPL software"
> distribution. In the Mandrake distribution which I have, there is a disk
> of non-GPL freeware which every person who purchases the Mandrake CD-ROM
> distribution gets. I assume that their plan is to move Pine to that
> CD-ROM.
>
> Pine will still included with Mandrake, just on a different CD-ROM.
>
> If Mandrake's policy has subsequently changed, they haven't told us.
>
> On Tue, 17 Sep 2002, David Rankin wrote:
> > The following is from the mandrake mailing list. It would appear
> > there are a LOT of pine users that will be alienated.
> >
> > ********************************
> >
> > > 3. I could not locate the pine package anywhere on the disks.
> >
> > It's been removed because the University of Washington, its owners,
> > introduced a homebrewed licence which is more restrictive than GPL or
> > similar.
> >
> > (Mandrakesoft is _very_ strict on this issue).
> >
> > ********************************
> >
> > Now what motivation could you have for crafting a restrictive
> > license agreement that would cause the major Linux distribution to drop
> > Pine? Pine is a great mailer with a loyal following and its
> > non-inclusion in the major distribution will be missed.
> >
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