On Tue, 2002-11-05 at 11:44, Jack Coates wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-11-05 at 09:27, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > On Mon, 2002-11-04 at 22:25, Jack Coates wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2002-11-04 at 21:43, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > > > All.
> > > > 
> > > >   Some problems with 9.0 
> > > > 
> > > > 1.  On a total of 6 different boxes whenever the cursor is over the
> > > > "open" areas of the desktop.  I always get a clock Icon. As soon as it
> > > > goes back over an application it seems to work just fine.  Annoying but
> > > > not problematic.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Not that this is a fix, but I've seen this whenever running
> > > KDE-influenced apps without the KDE DCOP server running... it gets all
> > > confused. It's happened once or twice on 9.0, but not as much as it used
> > > to.
> > 
> > Like I said more of an annoyance than a problem....However someone
> > staring at my laptop the other day. (I'd just booted it) noted how long
> > it took it to load. (It was fully loaded just the clock cursor on the
> > screen.)
> 
> well, this is why there are so many choices for a given task in Linux --
> because 25% of them are going to be poor fits, 50% won't work right, and
> the remaining 25% can be tweaked to fit :-) I can't help but note that
> KDE is the common thread. The backdrop thing could be X, but X would
> behave oddly in other WM's too, I'd think.
> 
> > > 
> > > > 2.  In 1024x768 mode you can't have 1 background per desktop in kde
> > > > (havent tested the others you'll see why in a sec.).  Larger modes the
> > > > background will refresh but in 1024x768 it won't .(Most noticeable on my
> > > > laptop since thats the largest it will do) Smaller has the same
> > > > problems. 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Whuh? You mean the first backdrop is the only one you get? How about if
> > > you don't do backdrop pictures and just do colors, does it still act
> > > wrong?
> > 
> > Yep.  But if I move an application around the screen I can "paint" the
> > proper backdrop.  Note I can duplicate this on ANY comp I've installed.
> > I usually operate at a higher res but on the laptop this is my limit.
> > 
> > > 
> > > > 3.  I can't use anything but kde! on my laptop. and desktops.  Oh I can
> > > > log into by favorite ... WindowMaker.  but it can't load the mandrake
> > > > menu system.... doesn't do much good to have a desktop without a menu.
> > > > Gnome has trouble saving to the home directory some of the settings and
> > > > it seems to be breeding Icons as well. xcfe and fvmm also have problems
> > > > loading the mandrake menu.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Now this is sad... we should pass a hat :-) I know I get all upset if
> > > XFce quits working and I have to log into KDE, make some phone calls,
> > > take a walk, my goodness hasn't it started yet? Anyway, XFce has modules
> > > which pick up the menu from GNOME or KDE when starting, so that would
> > > fix your problem. Not sure if similar exists under wmaker, but if you're
> > > really desparate I suppose parsing /usr/lib/menu/* is an option.
> > 
> > 
> > Can't run this from X and if I try it from a tty it won't run.  I can't
> > get to a term window..... I need a menu to get to a menu. grumble.
> > 
> 
> so you're saying xfmenu won't run?? It's a module, not a standalone --
> you load it by checking boxes on the last tab in the xfce configger
> (choose an XFce session, then click the paint palette in the bar).

That's part of the problem... it errors out then as well.  Which really
sucks as I'd like to use vnc over the net at times and a lightweight
manager like windowmaker or ice or XFce are preferable.
> 
> > > 
> > > > 4.  On my laptop only (Compaq Armada M700 with a Lynksis 10/100
> > > > Etherfast PCMCIA Nic) the ssh connections are slow as molasys.  Web
> > > > surfing ftp etc happens at normal speed. (even over the net, on cable
> > > > here) but when ssh'd into a server on my LAN or any of a number of other
> > > > ones I've been on it's like packets get transmitted in bursts. Then for
> > > > a few seconds it's normal then back to the slowdown.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Could there be traffic shaping going on? Shorewall's default config
> > > helps ssh rather than hindering it, but it could have been tinkered
> > > with. Really though, that sounds like a network issue -- I'd expect that
> > > there's a switch between point a and b which has a misconfigured port.
> > 
> > I would suspect the same except that it happens in about 5 or 6
> > different locations so far.  (business the laptop goes where I go.)
> > > 
> > > > Thoughts .... questions..... pointed fingers and hysterical laughter? :)
> > > > 
> > > > James
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > James
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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> > > > 
> > > 
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> > > Jack Coates
> > > Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture...
> > > 
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> Jack Coates
> Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture...
> 
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