thanks guys, stat looks like it, have to work out how to strip all those 
strange zeros though:
2002-12-20 04:08:37.000000000 +0000
2002-12-20 04:08:37.000000000 +0000
what are those zeros after the seconds?

bascule

On Thursday 19 Dec 2002 4:57 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Dec 2002, bascule wrote:
> > is there a way to obtain the time and date of a file without having to
> > parse the ls command output?
>
> You can try using the stat(2) call. Just make the call then print only
> the information that you require.

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