On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 22:14, Franki wrote: > Yep, > > I totally agree.. Vincent made a statement that mdk was a desktop OS.. and > that as such had no obligations to be a server.. > > I wasn't totally aware of that, I have seen blurb on the website about how > mandrake makes good servers.. and that many of the examples that mandrake > give in their newsletters are about mandrake as servers... > > As sad as it is to me,, I will probably swap to redhat
Don't go RH same situation, UNLESS you pay extra for extra support. Slack is good... and reliable. > or debian for servers > in future, because a reload every 18 months is alittle to much for me.. we > have 20 servers in our system.. and thats alot of work, not to mention that > I have setup many small business's with mandrake 8.1/8.1 and 9.0 boxes... > all of which don't have a long lifespan ahead.. > > I can only hope that when mandrake gets back in the black they will rethink > this to some degree.. > > One of the reasons I have been parading to our dept heads that linux is > better then winsucks is the longevity of the product... > > The only way to really get that now it seems.. is to use stable debian.. > > > rgds > > Frank > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Rankin > Sent: Friday, 7 February 2003 12:34 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake RPM updates > > > Well, > > I think the end of life stuff sucks. Yes, it's inevitable, but it still > sucks. I for one haven't upgraded my 7.2 server (other than applying > patches) since it was installed. Why? Answer: It works, It works, It works! > It is inefficient to think about spending 3-5 days of a backup, HD format, > re-install, reconfigure, reload, test, (fix what used to work, but now for > some reason unexplained doesn't), QA and harden a new server when the one > you have provides 100% of what you need (and believe me 7.2 is widely > installed and has few shortcommings) > > So no, I don't repave each time a "got to have a number larger than RH > release" comes out. If their is a needed capability that is offered in the > new release, then I would. However, ssh, apache, php, mysql, pptpd, ipsec, > samba (no XP clients), BIND 8, and the rest still work just fine under 7.2. > > -- > David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. > Rankin * Bertin, PLLC > 510 Ochiltree Street > Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 > (936) 715-9333 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Chou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 5:44 PM > Subject: [expert] Mandrake RPM updates > > > > Now that Mandrake has announced their product end-of-life policy > > (http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/productlifetime.php3), I really need a > > sustainable upgrade strategy. I've always struggled with rpm updates, > > basically downloadling source rpms and building them myself. Mandrake > > package dependencies also happen to be particularly 'unkempt,' often > > includes things that really aren't necessary. My most "important" MDK > box, > > a gateway/firewall, is still basically MDK8.0 (console only). > > > > What do most of you do to keep your machines up to date with necessary > > features and security updates? Do you pretty much re-pave each time for a > > newer MDK distro, or do you build your own from sources? Any time-saving > > hints, like rsync, etc, which would save download time? What are the best > > practices? > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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